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To: Diego1618
Since I am not a member of any of those organizations, do not claim to be a Protestant and in no way support the doctrines of Martin Luther, you have just shown the world your lack of knowledge of the New Testament Church.

In a previous post you claimed that you were a member of the Church of God. The Churches of God that I am familiar with came out of the Restoration Movement, along with a bunch of others also including Christian Science.

Now you belong to a New Testament Church. According to NewTestamentChurch.com (unless you happen to change allegiances again before your next post), they start new churches and give instructions on how to do so. According to any of the Bibles I have read, this is what we engineers call a really bad thing. For those who follow the Lord Jesus Christ, being a member of His Church oughta be enough.

Furthermore, it says that there is no distinction between clergy and laity. So, in other words anyone with charisma and a lust for leadership can lead a church (shades of Ted Haggard). It also says that the New Testament era churches were led by elders and not by Pastors. True enough, except for the fact that church authorities (Peter, Paul, Timothy, etc.) came and imposed their own authority upon them. They were not autonomous. Church officials told them what to do and what not to do. And so on.

I have seen various new fads and new names and new approaches over my years and the Church has seen them throughout the last 2000 years. At what point do people just discard their hubris and their pride and their love of power and go back to what the Lord Jesus Christ left for us to follow? When do we leave the Jim Bakkers and the Jimmy Swaggarts behind?

884 posted on 03/06/2007 11:46:47 AM PST by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: MarkBsnr
In a previous post you claimed that you were a member of the Church of God.

For those who follow the Lord Jesus Christ, being a member of His Church oughta be enough.

The Church you have described is referred to in the New Testament as "The Church of God"......never as the Universal or the Catholic Church. Now as an engineer you should be able to follow this logic.

[John 17:11] And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Where does this say to call them Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, etc? It says to keep them in the name of God!

[Acts 20:28][I Corinthians 1:2][I Corinthians 10:32][I Corinthians 11:16][I Corinthians 11:22][I Corinthians 15:9] [II Corinthians 1:1][Galatians 1:13][I Timothy 3:5][I Timothy 3:15][I Thessalonians 2:14][II Thessalonians 1:4]

Only once in scripture is the body referred to as the Church of Christ [Romans 16:16]. All other references are "Church of God" i.e. the New Testament Church!

You Romans are late comers as your organization began as the "Imperial Church of The Roman Empire".....and in no way, shape or form could ever be confused with the actual "New Testament Church of God"!

960 posted on 03/06/2007 2:52:36 PM PST by Diego1618
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