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To: faithplusnothing1; Salvation
He died in our place. Thats what saves you so I don't understand how anyone can't believe it. Salvation is a gift to be received, not a reward to be earned.

In light of what you've written, please explain this:

31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

46 And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

-- Matthew 25:31-46

863 posted on 03/06/2007 10:20:36 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
You ask this question in regard to Matt 25:31-46 "In light of what you've written, please explain this:"

Those that know Him, love Him and love others because they love Him. We do it for LOVE for our Lord not out of duty - [dead works]. Even those who helped "the least of these" asked when He was sick...etc, they were just doing because they belong to Him and love Him not out of a sense of earning salvation.

In the scriptures below Jesus says "I never knew you". They were never saved. It is not what they did or did not do that saved them, they were already saved or not saved.

Mat 7:20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits. Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

No works >>>>>

John 17:3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

If you are trying to earn your way to heaven you will miss it. Enter into relationship with Christ by faith in His finished work for you. He was punished in your place. If you will rest your faith in that alone you will not have to pay the punishment yourself. If not, you will have to pay the punishment for your sins. The decision is yours and it is here you have to make it not after this life here.

887 posted on 03/06/2007 11:52:39 AM PST by free_life
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To: wagglebee

That is at the end of the tribulation. Your good works don't save you. Your good works come after salvation. No one is going to stand in front of The God of creation himself and be able to say one thing he did to obtain eternal life.


890 posted on 03/06/2007 11:57:10 AM PST by faithplusnothing1
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