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To: Ping-Pong; Diego1618
Me - "I'll concede that most folks don't differentiate between Israel and Judah. In that light, how does one include the Christian of pure Gentile heritage?"

Ping-Pong - How do you mean, "include"?

The question is to Diego. If one is to read prophesy after Christ and divide is along racial/tribal lines, then there has to be a third category. You have to say Prophesy A is for Judah, Prophesy B is for Isreal, and Prophesy C is for the dude named Diego in California who has no blood relation to Abraham whatsoever, but has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior..

Col 3:11 a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

1,890 posted on 03/14/2007 9:15:54 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04; Ping-Pong
If one is to read prophesy after Christ and divide is along racial/tribal lines, then there has to be a third category. You have to say Prophesy A is for Judah, Prophesy B is for Israel, and Prophesy C is for the dude named Diego in California who has no blood relation to Abraham whatsoever, but has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior..

Actually what I am saying is that Prophecies to Israel in the Latter days may not be to whom we think they are. The present day nation of Israel does not fit the description, nor has it fulfilled many of the prophecies to Abraham that we are familiar with in Genesis.

[Genesis 22:17-18] That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

As an example....when has the little country called Israel possessed the gates of their enemies....when have all the nations of the world been blessed by them?

[Genesis 17:3-4] And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

When has the little country in the middle east we call Israel.....ever been many nations?

I am not saying that salvation belongs to no one except Israelites.....I am saying when you read Bible prophecy to Israel it is probably not referring to some little country on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.

1,911 posted on 03/14/2007 3:54:19 PM PDT by Diego1618
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