Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool
Now it turns out that YOU are saying YOU don't WANT to be part of "our" Church. Fine, whatever. But if you're stomping off to be in OUR shop, don't turn around and accuse us throwing you out.
One false attack at a time, okay? RC's teach, as I said, that if you are Baptized with water etc., you're a part of the Church.
Laura Ingraham said she was a Northern Baptist before converting to Catholicsm.
Maybe Thomas A Kempis and his <<<"Imitation of [Christ]Christianity>>> leads the Church???
...or that seven days without a drink will surely make one week 8^)
"Perhaps about that time --- yes --- or at Pentecost. But the Roman Catholic Church was formed after Constantine took power in Rome."
Where in heaven's name did you get that idea? The "Roman Catholic Church", at least the Church caled that, didn't exist until after the Great Schism. Before that it was simply the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church, or so the Fathers called it.
Let's see how good your history is? What Pontiff knew the canon of the Bible before the RCC did? It was the same Pontiff who paid Eusebius to send out 50 Greek bibles with the same canon in them that those who had been reading it throughout the empire in the east had become accustomed. Get real.
Welcome to Free Republic!
Actually your history continues to be horrible. The Council of Hippo which authorized the Canon occurred after Constantine's death. Try again later.
I did. The Gospels all have references to the Last Supper.
Have you never read The Book of John and his chapters on the "Bread of Life"?
I bet you have. This was just a test. right?
Thanks and may God bless you!
No way, Jose'! YOU make the charge. YOU make it stick! As Perry Mason said,"Do this in remembrance of me." Wait, you mean that was somebody else? Gosh, What was the occasion? To whom did he say it? Could this possibly have been around the same time that that person said "This is my body ..., " "This cup is the new covenant in my blood?"
So Jesus says (leaving aside the "I am the bread of Life" discourse which Protestants take as a given that Jesus did not mean) that the cup holds His Blood and the bread is His Body and that the Apostles are to do this in remembrance of Him. Then some protestants say," Well, He didn't really MEAN all that! It was a metaphor!" There are plenty of words, for "sorta like" in Greek. I assume there are in Aramaic as well. If Jesus had MEANT to say, "This is sorta like my body" it wasn't a lack of words that prevented Him. And there are lots of ways to say, "If you should ever want to do this I recommend thinking of me while you do it," but that's not what He said.
So, in other words, when they're done yelling at us RCs for not believing what's in the Bible, they turn around and yell at us for, uh, that's it, believing too much what's in the Bible. I'm just SEW confused!
We point to the text and say, "Here it is!" and they say, Well, now, while we are not in any way recommending anything that might possibly be construed as a WORK, mind you, what we want you to do is spend a WHOLE lot of time reading, re-reading, cross-referencing, and reading yet again your Bibles, until you come up with our opinion of what it says... NOT that we have any tradition or anything like that ... And if you don't do that, you're not a Christian so your salvation is in doubt, but we're not saying your salvation depends on anything you do.
Where's my Prozac? I'm afraid I'm beginning to understand this stuff.
LOL! Loving your sense of humor!
Yes...but do you kiss them? Burn incense and cross yourself in front of them? That's the real test!:)
I wonder what the author of this screed would think of us Orthodox as we processed through the church last Sunday carrying icons as the priest proclaimed:
"As the prophets beheld, as the Apostles have taught, as the Church has received, as the Teachers have dogmatised, as the Universe has agreed, as Grace has shown forth, as Truth has revealed, as falsehood has been dissolved, as Wisdom has presented, as Christ awarded, thus we declare; thus we assert, thus we preach Christ our true God, and honour His Saints in words, in writings, in thoughts, in sacrifices, in Churches, in Holy Icons; on the one hand worshiping and reverencing Christ as God and Lord; and on the other hand honouring as true servants of the same Lord of all and accordingly offering them veneration.
This is the Faith of the Apostles, this is the Faith of the Fathers, this is the Faith of the Orthodox, this is the Faith which has established the Universe!"
Have you been baptized? Perhaps the Catholic Church recognizes the baptism performed by your church.
Does Nestorian heresy enter into it?
It is the sad fact of our schism, but the Apostolic Church was Rome and the East together and we have lost that. The united Orthodox Catholic Church.
Maybe the Religion Moderatory will put it in the Smokey Back Room.
"Does Nestorian heresy enter into it?"
To the extent that this writer denies that Panagia is "The Mother of God", which is of course what nestorius taught, yes. But he also seems to deny that Christ is God so he may also be an Arian.
week belief?
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