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Catholic Church & Jesus Christ-Why No One Should Be A Catholic
Apostolic Messianic Fellowship ^ | August 30, 2005 | Why No One Should Be A Catholic

Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool

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To: Patriotic1
Well, I actually have, over a vacation. It's not a tough read - the book is just narrow, making it appear to be a huge book. It focuses mainly on the creed. And yeah - I've read the whole Baltimore catechism too.

And when the new Catechism, and the corrected version, were published I assume you read each of them cover to cover. Further, I assume you represent the universe of Catholics.
1,281 posted on 03/07/2007 11:38:00 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: wagglebee

We are redeemed.

Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;


1,282 posted on 03/07/2007 11:39:55 AM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: Salvation
That is the first time I have ever heard it called such. Easter is the climax of the Church Year -- Christ died for our sins and rose again to send his disciples on their way and set His church in motion.

Easter is the Pagan holiday of the worship of the fertility God(dess)...Hence the eggs...

Pentecost is the religious holiday connected to the sacrificial shedding of blood...

Easter is also connect to the Sun God...Hence the sunday morning sunrise service (worship) warned against in the bible...

Easter is a lot older than Christianity...

1,283 posted on 03/07/2007 11:42:33 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: markomalley

Believing is not a work. The Lord Jesus did all the work for me. Baptism is a work. You are depending on your good works for salvation and I am putting my faith in what Jesus did for my salvation. Which one is really easier?


1,284 posted on 03/07/2007 11:46:09 AM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: editor-surveyor
If you are burdened for the soul of a catholic, why not talk to them personally? Posting this kind of stuff here never seems to advance civil debate. Is that what you were trying to do?

I do talk to Catholics personally...And who knows??? Maybe some Catholic or anyone for that matter may, when he/she gets off the net today, open the bible, or go down and buy one and look for themselves what God has to say...

I have never said follow me...But follow God...Maybe God will burden someone from what I have to say...

1,285 posted on 03/07/2007 11:46:23 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: faithplusnothing1
You are depending on your good works for salvation

You really don't understand Catholicism, do you?

I depend upon the grace of God for my salvation.

1,286 posted on 03/07/2007 11:48:29 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: wagglebee
I have gone through every reference you've made to her on this thread, you have NEVER ONCE referred to her as "blessed" you have always simply called her Mary. Find an exception and I will apologize.

I have been blessed many times...Mary of course was blessed...If you are saying Mary is Bless-Ed, maybe that implies a different connotation...Does the bible say she was Blessed, or Bless-Ed???

1,287 posted on 03/07/2007 11:53:39 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: wagglebee
I have gone through every reference you've made to her on this thread, you have NEVER ONCE referred to her as "blessed" you have always simply called her Mary. Find an exception and I will apologize.

I have been blessed many times...Mary of course was blessed...If you are saying Mary is Bless-Ed, maybe that implies a different connotation...Does the bible say she was Blessed, or Bless-Ed???

1,288 posted on 03/07/2007 11:53:39 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Salvation

My sins were judged at the cross. He will remember them no more! Jesus has covered my sins with his blood. I have no clue what Martin Luther taught or manufactured.


1,289 posted on 03/07/2007 11:56:16 AM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: Salvation

He's not bad, but I gotta support somebody ... Hunter is it. What I'll do if he's not the "R" nominee remains to be seen ... but I have no delusions about other candidates.


1,290 posted on 03/07/2007 11:58:11 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: markomalley

Do you think you can do something to lose it?


1,291 posted on 03/07/2007 11:58:36 AM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: Salvation; Diego1618
James was NOT the brother of Jesus, but the son of Zebedee. Mary was a perpetual virgin. Have we been through this before?

Yes we have but you keep forgetting, so I am just reminding you of what even your own church historian Eusebius tells us about James, the brother of Jesus:

"Even at this time Ignatius was known as the 2nd bishop of Antioch, Euodius having been the first. Symeon likewise was at that time the 2nd ruler of the Church of Jerusalem, the brother of our saviour having been the first". [Church History, Book III, Chapter 22]

1,292 posted on 03/07/2007 12:02:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: faithplusnothing1

I don't know how you can lose His grace, but you sure can reject it.


1,293 posted on 03/07/2007 12:04:06 PM PST by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I joined a third party--the CP. I wonder who they'll choose? Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul or Brownback?

F


1,294 posted on 03/07/2007 12:19:39 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: Frank Sheed

I haven't "joined" any party ... and am unlikely ever to do so. I register to vote as a Republican, in order to effectively cast a primary vote.


1,295 posted on 03/07/2007 12:26:18 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MarkBsnr

How would you reject grace?


1,296 posted on 03/07/2007 12:28:38 PM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: Salvation; Diego1618
Have you forgotten Matthew 13:55:

They were astonished and said: "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren James, and Joseph and Simon and Jude? and his sisters, are they not all with us?" [The Holy Bible: The Catholic Press].

1,297 posted on 03/07/2007 12:39:49 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Frank Sheed
My Church, begun in 33 AD, feels otherwise, and as she is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, I'll defer to Her (the Church) and to her (Mary) with regards to interpreting what Jesus Christ wills of each of us. In short, I bow to the Authority of the Catholic Church and her (Mary's) advice.

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Amen. Well said, Frank.

1,298 posted on 03/07/2007 12:41:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I was Independent most of my life. Finally decided to "register." The Pro Life plank did it for me.

F


1,299 posted on 03/07/2007 12:44:19 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: Salvation

I'd forgotten about this thread.


1,300 posted on 03/07/2007 12:56:21 PM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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