Posted on 02/27/2007 10:29:55 AM PST by Gamecock
You didn't answer my question...but no matter, it was not my intent to get on some endless debate on this.
Seriously, are you telling me that you don't recognise it?
And how is any "natural" thing evidence of God?
How is my question irrational, any more than your rainbows as "evidence of God"? Wouldn't you want to keep "keepsakes" of people you love, much less something you got from God? I suppose the Jews are fools for "venerating an object" like the Ark of the Covenant.
I'll also bet you don't know what a Duezie is. I just used that so that something mundane like a - oh, well, a cookie sheet - wouldn't be disparaged easily as an "unlovable" object easily discarded. But it could be either way. If I had a rose given - actually GIVEN, not just your "nature" that I found on a walk - by God, I'd keep it.
"Fanatics have their dreams, wherewith they weave a paradise" -- Keats
Words fail me...
I have to say it looks as if someone was cooking a pork chop.
Just saying that's what it could be.
Wow. That was some "slam"!
If you don't recognise the photo, just say so. There's no shame in it.
Scripture tells us God created rainbows. You are putting your speculations on par with scripture if you think they are equivelent. I'd submit that is unsound.
I'll also bet you don't know what a Duezie is.
A type of car. Does that really matter? You think a car is more lovable than a baking sheet apparently. They are both man made objects. I don't see either as more loveable.
I suppose the Jews are fools for "venerating an object" like the Ark of the Covenant.
So you think this baking sheet is on par with the Ark of the covenant and don't see that as odd?
If I had a rose given - actually GIVEN, not just your "nature" that I found on a walk - by God, I'd keep it.
It's not "my nature"...scripture says God created the plants and animals...so I'd suggest that it was His. The rest of your sentence begs the question.
To be honest AB, when I saw your post I thought the photo was a closeup of the pizza pan! I went looking for photos of Cydonia myself to make a humorous comparison, when my search came up with that very same picture - and I realized you were way ahead of me on this one :P
I think your picture matches AB's. In your picture Mary is looking down with the right side of her face highlighted to the viewer. This is obviously to hide the hideous scarring on the left side of her face that we see in AB's front-on view. Looks like a knife-fight to me. I wonder who she ran with as a kid. Who were her peeps?
I washed the Twelve Apostles off of my baking sheet.
Valentine's Day. Drop cookies.
For a moment consider...if this is just a smudge, then doesn't it seem irrational to make it the focus of anything? Do we really need an accidental smudge to be brought closer to Christ?...and if so, what does that say about us?
And, in fairness to DocEck, that was the Mars Global Surveyor image ... that only barely looks like a face.
The original Viking Orbiter image is significantly more face-like. Still, if you don't recognise something, just say so.
I sure as hell see a Duezie as more lovable!
You still don't get about the rose, nor the Ark. I said ACTUALLY GIVEN a rose - not just something you see on a walk or in the store. I should've mentioned getting a baking sheet from God, maybe via the sky. Geesh!
The tablets of the Commandments were given made by God. But the ARK was made by men! The point is, either way, they are OBJECTS, and not God Himself. So, should they and we stop seeking the Ark because it's "just an object"?
As others have pointed out here anyway:
What's so terrible?
??????
"if this is just a smudge, then doesn't it seem irrational to make it the focus of anything?"
But what does the person who witnessed it think? They saw it as a sign, not "just a smudge"!
If WE see it as just a smudge (really, a grease stain from the grease coming off the sides of the pork chop), which many do, then of COURSE it's "irrational"!
Not a well-phrased question, sorry.
The inverse of this is:
"if this is a sign from God, then doesn't it seem irrational to dismiss it?"
Circular arguments. Obviously, it all depends on what the person 1st thinks they saw/know.
I took your picture the same way Alex did. Now I've seen your explanation. We've all seen that just about any "face" randomly occurring in nature can be taken as Mary's face. This amazes me since NO ONE has the slightest clue what Mary actually looked like.
I find that fact very interesting.
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