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To: kawaii; Kolokotronis
In Serbian churches it is impossible to commune without a confession. That part is observed strictly. In other churches it's a 'mass' communion, like in the Catholic churches.

General confession is something that came out of Russia (I believe it was Kronstadt), probably under Latin influence. It is not an Orthodox practice.

The Communion Prayer is recited (or should be recited) silently by those who are to receive the holy Mysteries only.

In some churches it is used as a General Confession, recited aloud, which is wrong.

12 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:40 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

not a supporter of general confession myself just noting that it seems the local oca folks are trying to reestablish confession in general.

I've never been in a rocor parish where they didn't ask prior to communion whether I'd gone to confession. it seems to me they're probably on par with the serbian churches in that regard.


13 posted on 02/27/2007 6:12:56 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kosta50

also. the general confession I'm referring to was held saturdays after vespers... in the oca parishes ... definitly not a few lines inserted into liturgy... each person approached the priest one at a time...


14 posted on 02/27/2007 6:14:59 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kosta50
General confession is something that came out of Russia (I believe it was Kronstadt), probably under Latin influence.

Please elaborate on what you mean by "General confession".

15 posted on 02/27/2007 6:19:09 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kosta50

I don't beleive what St John of Kronstadt practiced was general confession (nor do I see a disparity between what is prescribed in Holy Scripture and what St John practiced):

"Some of the pious were even led to believe that there was some relation between this innovative exercise called "General Confession," and the mass Confessions conducted by St. John of Kronstadt. NOTHING OF THE SORT! In the practice of mass Confessions conducted by St. John of Kronstadt, all, according to witnesses and participants, said or, in many cases, shouted aloud all their individual sins. That is, the Christians who participated in this mass Confession did not speak their sins ONLY in the presence of an ordained Priest in the relative seclusion of the Office of Confession, but in the presence and hearing of their friends and neighbors and strangers standing beside them in Church!"

http://www.holy-trinity.org/spirituality/tikhon.penance.html


16 posted on 02/27/2007 6:25:06 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kosta50

ROCOR thoughts on confession before communion (very strict)

http://www.roca.org/OA/151/151m.htm

http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/rocor.htm

http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/tradmod_intro.aspx


17 posted on 02/27/2007 6:36:48 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kosta50

"In some churches it is used as a General Confession, recited aloud, which is wrong."

I have never seen such a thing, to the best of my knowledge.


24 posted on 02/27/2007 1:36:28 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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