The wrath of God is poured out upon the ungodly at the beginning of that great and terrible day of the Lord (2nd and only coming of the Lord).
the Lord has promised us all tribulation but not His wrath. He has prayed that we are able to perceiver through the tribulation not to be taken out of it.
Will try.
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John, I'm following your dialogue with Quix. I agree with you on the wrath being poured on the ungodly at His 2nd, and only coming. He loves those that follow Him.
Something else, that you and Quix might be interested in about the tribulation is the timing.
There are two tribulations, just as there are two Christs, one fake and one true. There were two trees in the Garden, Tree of Life and tree of good and evil, there are two rocks, Satan, King of Tyrus and our Rock Jesus, there are two vines, there are two morning stars - Lucifer and Christ, etc.
The first tribulation is that of Satan and it begins at the 6th trump. That is the one Christians need to be concerned about. The tribulation of Christ will probably last just a few minutes and we're all in our spirit bodies but regardless of how long - it will not hurt us.
Satan's tribulation however is coming to deceive Christians but it only lasts 5 months - not 3 1/2 years. At least this is what I firmly believe scripture tells us.
Matthew 24:22.."And except those days should be SHORTENED, there would be no flesh saved; but for the elect's sake those days shall be SHORTENED".
This is again stated in Mark 13:20. You find the time it was shortened to in Rev. 9:5 and 9:10:
9:5. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented FIVE MONTHS; and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when he striketh a man.
9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt man FIVE MONTHS.
That 5 month time was also the time Noah endured - our example for coming through it.