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To: Seven_0

Seven - "Gen.45:1 Tell me if you can see a parallel to the rapture in this verse?...And there stood no man with him, while Joseph made himself known unto his brethren."


Ping - I thought about this last night. It is your belief, if I understand you correctly, that this type,
Joseph, would be Jesus making Himself known to those that were raptured, before the 2nd advent. It is an interesting assumption and I see how you could interpret it this way.
The chapter actually makes a very good argument for rapture.

If you are a non-rapture believer, as I am, it could be interpreted another way. (please read the scripture with the following)

45:1 All Egyptians were sent away as he would not accuse his brothers in front of them.
2.The others, non family, heard but could not understand - their eyes and ears were not opened. God put the "spirit of slumber" on some.
3.They were in shock, as they will be when the true Christ returns. Many will have been misled and believe the anti-christ (instead of Christ), who came first, was our true Christ and followed him.
4.He tells the world that He is the true Christ.
7.To save the world and preserve a remnant to tell when the true Christ would come.
9.There will be famine in the land (Amos 8:11 famine is for hearing the Word of God). Come to Me, Jesus, The Word, in end times (know the truth and it will save you)

So, instead of being raptured, I believe we will go through the famine, the tribulation but, as written in Lk.10:19 -

"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."

This power is His Word that keeps us from believing the lies of Satan in end times.

I enjoy learning about the "types" God gave us thoughout the Bible. One of the most interesting, as it pertains to current times, is that of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel. The similarities between that King of Babylon and the one we just hung are amazing. Signs and wonders.

...........Ping-Pong


128 posted on 03/13/2007 6:41:46 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong
I thought about this last night. It is your belief, if I understand you correctly, that this type, Joseph, would be Jesus making Himself known to those that were raptured, before the 2nd advent.

I firmly believe that all of the details will fit perfectly, that is the way God does things. If I could see how they all fit, I should not need to bring it up. Christ has already made himself known to the people who will be raptured. The Egyptians knew who Joseph was, but "blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

This is one of the questions that the idea of rapture answers for me, that is, the church seems to be absent in the book of Revelation from chapter three through twenty and Israel comes back into prominence.

1 All Egyptians were sent away as he would not accuse his brothers in front of them.

Though he accused them, they were also reconciled.

He tells the world that He is the true Christ.

Here, he tells only his brothers. If this is prophetic of Christ revealing himself to Israel, what will be the role of the Church when this happens? If there is a rapture, then the Church will be out of the picture. If not, the question remains. In the mean time, Israel remains in blindness, and demonstrates regularly.

Either way, this passage reveals to us, many things about our savior, and it is good news.

Seven
129 posted on 03/13/2007 9:36:05 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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