Seven - "My understanding is that Christ was a sacrifice. Therefore he took on the penalty that we would have taken. Note that he did not pay the penalty for our physical death or we would not die the physical death."
Ping - Yes, Christ was a sacrifice, He was the Lamb on Passover. I don't believe He took the penalty that we would have but His death made it possible for our sins to be forgiven, upon our repentance.
Seven - "Notice also that when he says "he that believeth in me shall never die," he was not talking of our physical death."
Ping - True, this was about our souls. Seven, where are you trying to lead me? Is this still about rapture and if yes, how are you making the connection?
Here is a major difference in our doctrine. It is had to establish how much detail is involved is the interpretation of types in scripture. Which details are alike and which are different. It is up to us to discern and that comes with practice
Off to Genesis. Joseph is a type of Christ. This is established because the events in his life are parallel to the life of Jesus. I believe that the events in Joseph's life that didn't happen in Christ's first coming are still prophecy and will happen when he comes again.
Gen 45:1 Then Joseph could not refrain himself before all them that stood by him; and he cried, Cause every man to go out from me. And there stood no man with him, while Joseph made himself known unto his brethren.
Tell me if you can see a parallel to the rapture in this verse?