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To: Ping-Pong
Is not the elect the Children of Abraham?
Being chosen by God predesignated to be conformed to His image is this not like the predestination of Christ?

Behold the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?

You would not know it by my tag line but my name is Phill

111 posted on 03/07/2007 10:57:53 PM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

John - "Is not the elect the Children of Abraham?"

Ping - The 144,000 referred to in Rev.14:1&3 and 7:4 are the tribes of "the children of Israel". Abraham had many children, including Ishmael and his descendants but (Gen.21:12) "through Isaac shall thy seed be called."

So the question is, who are the children of Israel and where are they today. We can't confuse the Israel here with the nation of Israel today, as it wasn't founded until 1948. There are 12 tribes, one of which is Judah - They are called Jews. Where are the other tribes?

John - "Being chosen by God predestinated to be conformed
to His image is this not like the predestination of Christ?"

Ping - It means the elect are already justified and predestined - they have a destiny and will fulfill it.

John - "Behold the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?"

Ping - I don't understand your question. Please let me know what you mean.


112 posted on 03/08/2007 10:17:18 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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