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To: Zionist Conspirator

On the inerrancy of Scripture.

From Dei Verbum

Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings (5) for the sake of salvation. Therefore "all Scripture is divinely inspired and has its use for teaching the truth and refuting error, for reformation of manners and discipline in right living, so that the man who belongs to God may be efficient and equipped for good work of every kind" (2 Tim. 3:16-17, Greek text).

Also this : In 1920, Pope Benedict XV dealt with this incorrect approach in Spiritus Paraclitus: "The method of those who extricate themselves from difficulties by allowing without hesitation that divine inspiration extends to matters of faith and morals and to nothing more" can not be tolerated. The Church "teaches that divine inspiration extends to every part of the Bible without the slightest exception, and that no error can occur in the inspired text" (Spiritus Paraclitus 21).

I think you are confusing the fact that the Church says that there are different writing styles in found in the Bible other than literal. There is prose, metaphor, allegory but all of these convey the Truth. Sometimes both may be found in one story. The Story of Jonah is both a literal historical event and an allegory for Christ's 3 days in the tomb and His resurrection. God does not literally have thousands of cattle on a hill. But all the earth and its creatures is under His providence.

The whole of the Bible is a salvation history. It reveals how God created, loved us and saved us. He did this within the context of real events and real people. Biblical archeology proves this. Throughout the OT He is preparing the way for Christ our promised Savior and throughout the NT He is showing how Christ fullfills the promises of the OT.

PS I do not know if you are Jewish. The tag Zionist Conspirator could be a Christian's or a Jew's. I am explaining this through a Catholic Christian viewpoint. Of course if you are Jewish I understand you would not hold the NT as being a sacred book. But I believe the OT is inspired and inerrant and hope I offer no insult to your faith.


118 posted on 02/25/2007 4:27:45 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance
Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings (5) for the sake of salvation. Therefore "all Scripture is divinely inspired and has its use for teaching the truth and refuting error, for reformation of manners and discipline in right living, so that the man who belongs to God may be efficient and equipped for good work of every kind" (2 Tim. 3:16-17, Greek text).

Okay. So "Biblical inerrancy" refers only to the spiritual lessons of the stories and not to their facticity or historicity. Once again, partial inerrancy.

Also this : In 1920, Pope Benedict XV dealt with this incorrect approach in Spiritus Paraclitus: "The method of those who extricate themselves from difficulties by allowing without hesitation that divine inspiration extends to matters of faith and morals and to nothing more" can not be tolerated. The Church "teaches that divine inspiration extends to every part of the Bible without the slightest exception, and that no error can occur in the inspired text" (Spiritus Paraclitus 21).

First provide a quote that explains that "inerrancy" applies only to "the truth intended for our salvation;" now you provide another quote that insists on total inerrancy. So which is it? Does inerrancy apply only to "salvational truth" or to everything?

"The method of those who extricate themselves from difficulties by allowing without hesitation that divine inspiration extends to matters of faith and morals and to nothing more" can not be tolerated.

So why does the Church not only tolerate, but teach this very thing???

I think you are confusing the fact that the Church says that there are different writing styles in found in the Bible other than literal. There is prose, metaphor, allegory but all of these convey the Truth. Sometimes both may be found in one story. The Story of Jonah is both a literal historical event and an allegory for Christ's 3 days in the tomb and His resurrection. God does not literally have thousands of cattle on a hill. But all the earth and its creatures is under His providence.

So Jonah is both literal and metaphorical, but the creation of the universe is pure metaphor???

The whole of the Bible is a salvation history. It reveals how God created, loved us and saved us. He did this within the context of real events and real people. Biblical archeology proves this. Throughout the OT He is preparing the way for Christ our promised Savior and throughout the NT He is showing how Christ fullfills the promises of the OT.

PS I do not know if you are Jewish. The tag Zionist Conspirator could be a Christian's or a Jew's. I am explaining this through a Catholic Christian viewpoint. Of course if you are Jewish I understand you would not hold the NT as being a sacred book. But I believe the OT is inspired and inerrant and hope I offer no insult to your faith.

The only thing I find insulting is the constant and neverending contradictions in what Catholics have been saying: the Bible is only partially inerrant, the Bible is totally inerrant, the Bible is totally inerrant but this doesn't apply to the facts it relates. Do you realize how confused and confusing all this is?

Catholics are like pious children when it comes to specifically Catholic things like the virgin and the eucharist. However, when it comes to the "old testament" the Church evidently feels so threatened that it feels compelled to dissect it with the cold, analytical eye of the rationalistic naturalist.

Evidently, Catholics have to doubt the literal truth of the Bible (especially the "old testament") to prove they aren't Protestants.

123 posted on 02/25/2007 5:35:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Zakhor 'et 'asher-`asah lekha `Amaleq, baderekh betze'tekhem miMitzrayim.)
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