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I have been waiting for years to hear a Catholic admit that not all is perfect in Rome.

Are you kidding? One of the RC Church's most charming characteristics to me is the genial contempt we all share for the folks who run stuff. This isn't about doctrine, this is about people being bozos, especially when they are outside their field of competence.

Haven't you noticed that everybody knows how to do your job better than you do? -- and they'd be only too happy to tell you, if only you had the good sense to listen to them?

So they make the decisions, and (again, outside of doctrine) we gripe and complain and mock. Full employment!

If you've been a deacon, you already know this: Everybody knows what Sunday School SHOULD do, but nobody knows enough to volunteer to teach. EVERYbody is a contractor AND a Liturgical Interior Decorator when it's time to buy a carpet or fix the roof. After all, the RIGHT way for a church to look is mostly the way the one I went to when I was a kid looked. Everybody knows that!

Complaining about why other people aren't as smart and as good and perceptive and tasteful as I am is one of life's greatest joys and most popular occupations. Why should we Catholics deprive ourselves of this amusement?

One of the RC Church's most charming characteristics to me is the genial contempt we all share for the folks who run stuff. This isn't about doctrine, this is about people being bozos, especially when they are outside their field of competence.

LOL....but true. Our pastor wanted to errect a statue in the church of whomever was the patron saint of unsigned notes, since that was the only kind he got. And they weren't compliments on the assorment of doughnuts after Mass.

One of the RC Church's most charming characteristics to me is the genial contempt we all share for the folks who run stuff.

Being one of the people who "runs stuff", by which I mean "posts these kinds of news stories on Free Republic", I find that the "contempt you all share" has been anything but genial, and IMO it is anything but a "charming characteristic", unless you're also into bloodsports.

In my experience, Catholics by-and-large don't have a problem with having immoral priests. What they have are immeasurable problems with outsiders who tell them that they have immoral priests.

One of the RC Church's most charming characteristics to me is the genial contempt we all share for the folks who run stuff

Let me get this right, dude...you're blowin' my mind.

You're saying that catholics don't like hierarchies nor those who run them.

Have I got that straight?

If so, then get with gamecock's PCAs. I think they're fairly decentralized. If not, then get with B-D's baptists. They are so decentralized that you can take your marbles and leave anytime you feel like it. My grandpa's SBC church would be SBC one year, and Independent the next depending on the convention in question.