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Pilfering Priests
Time ^ | Thursday, Feb. 15, 2007 | TIM PADGETT / DELRAY BEACH

Posted on 02/15/2007 11:18:10 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: Campion

And let's not forget David was an adulterous murderer.


61 posted on 02/16/2007 12:44:14 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock
Who wrote most of the Psalms.

As I said, let him who is without sin cast the first stone ... are you volunteering?

62 posted on 02/16/2007 12:45:25 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: xzins
Ever hear of "anti-clericalism"?

I didn't say we are disobedient -- though some of us are. I said that we have a certain kind of contempt for the administrative abilities and sometimes the control needs of some of those "above us" in the system. Now some are very good indeed, but many not only couldn't administer their way out of a paper bag, but nevertheless have a very high opinion of their administrative abilities.

I wrote, ..." genial contempt we all share for those who run stuff.... ." I said nothing about the hierarchy as a system. It's just some of the hierarchs.

If I may say so, if this blows your mind, then you really haven't much of a clue about what the Church is like. It's the Prots who insist we deify our clergy. I don't know why, I guess it bolsters their sense that we're given to idolatry. Never let the facts get in the way of a good prejudice, say I.

63 posted on 02/16/2007 12:47:39 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("global warming -- it's just the tip of the iceberg!")
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To: 1000 silverlings
Imagine for a moment that the Pope, Spurgeon and Rabbi Yisroel ben Eliezer all went to the marketplace as unknowns to buy apples.

It sounded like you were starting to tell a joke, but I noticed they didn't walk into a bar...

64 posted on 02/16/2007 12:53:40 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Until the preordained day that we are to die, we are immortal. On that day, we are inescapably dead.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
1000 minnows: I have rarely seen such a collection of misconstructions in my life. I guess it's so much easier to attack catholics if you don't read. IS that how you pass the time until the random Scrpiture generator warms up?

"Little people" is your phrase, not mine. I meant the clergy,.

I never said contempt for "little people" as an "allure". Those are your words. I said it was a charming characteristic. It's charming to ME, as a member, and as a former clergyman in a Protestant denomination. I wasn't aware of it until I was on some church committees. Then it cracked me up, as I know it cracks up some of the clergy who are its targets.

The rest of your post is obviously meant to inflame. From my vantage point its just another example of how prejudice blinds people. So interesting that you guys had no clue what I was saying. What is it, do you get a bounty for the number of offensive half-truths and mischaracterizations you can spew out per week. Is there a contest I need to know about?

Have a nice thread. I had thought this was going to be about something important, but I see now it's just a little self-congratulatory hate-fest. Enjoy your conspicuous virtues.

65 posted on 02/16/2007 12:54:34 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("global warming -- it's just the tip of the iceberg!")
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To: Campion

Who's casting stones.

He is what he is, a sinner.

I am a sinner.

Don't spend too much time admiring the OT "heros." They need a Savior just like the rest off us.


66 posted on 02/16/2007 12:56:34 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock

I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a non-catholic post threads lamenting the abuse committed by non-catholic ministers.
I'm still thinking.......

So...when I see, time after time, non-catholics posting threads about abuse committed by catholic priests - it appears to me that non-catholics are more interested in catholic scandal than they are in scandals in their own backyard.


67 posted on 02/16/2007 1:03:56 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Mad Dawg
the random Scrpiture generator

Truth is only random for those with no ability to compare it with Truth.

68 posted on 02/16/2007 1:04:47 PM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: All
This is a toxic subject. Everyone, remember:

Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal!


69 posted on 02/16/2007 1:09:09 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Scotswife
it appears to me that non-catholics are more interested in catholic scandal than they are in scandals in their own backyard.

They're scared to death that we might be right. They wait anxiously for some fact they can use against us or some doctrine or practice they especially fear and then they righteously descend on us like harpies on a feast and make enjoyment possible only for those who like to see conversation degenerate into sniping and argument. Religion threads on FR are a waste of time, unless you need practice in polemical rhetoric. All they've done for me is make me all the more sure that I'm glad I am no longer Protestant. What a haughty, fearful, controlling, and angry bunch!

70 posted on 02/16/2007 1:12:47 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("global warming -- it's just the tip of the iceberg!")
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To: 1000 silverlings; Mad Dawg
First of all, I believe this was a JOKE people, a joke.

Second of all, I read this as referring to our "ministers of liturgy" and "ministers of education" and blah de blah blah. NOT our priests and true servants of God. Heck, we had a Facilities Manager who was horrible, just awful at his job. One of the holiest men I know, but a nightmare of a facilities manager. Tons of griping about him.

But back to the basics, it was a joke.

As for the rest of your post, it reads to me like you're trying to provoke something. So let's just let it drift off into obscurity and actually support each other in the worship of the One, True God.
71 posted on 02/16/2007 1:13:44 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Scotswife; Alex Murphy; Terriergal
***I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a non-catholic post threads lamenting the abuse committed by non-catholic ministers.
I'm still thinking.......***

Here, let me help.

Saint Murphy posted one article on 3 November, 2006. and another on 19 December 2006.

If you do a FR search for Rick Warren you will see several articles from earlier this year that are less than complimentary, posted by Proddies.

There are also countless threads poking fun at the silliness that goes on in modern Evangelism.

***it appears to me that non-catholics are more interested in catholic scandal than they are in scandals in their own backyard.***

Care to retract or should I go on?

73 posted on 02/16/2007 1:22:44 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: sandyeggo

The only threads of that nature that I see are anti-SSPX, anti Latin Mass, etc.

I have seen very precious few that say anything against the Roman church at large.


74 posted on 02/16/2007 1:25:19 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Scotswife; Gamecock
I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a non-catholic post threads lamenting the abuse committed by non-catholic ministers. I'm still thinking.......

Would you like some help in drafting a recent list?

75 posted on 02/16/2007 1:26:19 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Until the preordained day that we are to die, we are immortal. On that day, we are inescapably dead.)
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To: mockingbyrd; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; Blogger
Well when one uses the term contempt, it's hard to see the post as a joke. On these threads, we see daily, contempt for the God of the OT, contempt for those who worship the God of the OT, contempt for the Word of the New Testament, contempt for the Holy Spirit and contempt for ministers of the Gospel. Lacking all those recent posts, I guess it could be construed as not serious.
78 posted on 02/16/2007 1:34:22 PM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: sandyeggo; Alex Murphy
Alex: What they have are immeasurable problems with outsiders who tell them that they have immoral priests.

Seggo: In my experience, Protestants by-and-large don't have a problem making up stuff about Catholics.

Well Sandy, here is your big chance to prove Alex wrong. Why don't you put as much effort into commenting on the above article as you are about how Proddies don't understand Rome? It is interesting that you haven't commented on the article, but are quick to accuse Proddies of bashing Catholics.

79 posted on 02/16/2007 1:37:05 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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