[technochick99]

VII is certainly to blame (Or more specifically, our American Bishops using the Council as a reason to do what they did).

As an older GenXer, I believe that we were the first to grow up with and suffer from the effects. My BF is 2 years older, but came form a very orthodox area (they had the TLM uninterrupted until about 4 years ago). He knows so much more of the actual practices if the Church, although there is a lot he doesn't know of beliefs and theology. I can't blame that on VII.

[AnAmericanMother]

I think you're absolutely right. As our rector and our choirmaster have pointed out time and time again (and our young new assistant priest has too), the documents of VCII don't say ANY of the stuff that the American bishops instituted while using VCII as an excuse.

As a convert, I'm a special case as far as theology goes. We studied hard before we converted, after all to convert you need a good reason other than "I was born in this church."