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To: Eagle Eye

>> There are other words that describe believing what makes no sense and contradicts the Bible <<

You are the one who contradicts the bible. To the trinitarian, there is no contradiction. Jesus is both God and Man. God exists in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Accept these propositions, and the bible makes sense. Deny them, and you end up having to ignore, as you do, key portions of the bible, such as John's Doxology.

>> God is in Christ. And Christ is in the believer. Doesn't that make the believer God, too? <<

No. The paper is in the folder; the folder is in the briefcase. That doesn't mean that the briefcase is the paper. But the bible doesn't say God is IN Jesus. It says Jesus is God.

>> In the New Testament, the word 'mystery' has specific meaning and refers to something very special and it isn't 3 n 1 or anything like that <<

Yes, it does refer to something Paul says IS known. "or I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." or "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," or "Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:"

>> In the New Testament, the word 'mystery' has specific meaning and refers to something very special and it isn't 3 n 1 or anything like that. <<

Oh? How's this: "And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" So, all things were made by Jesus. Hence, Jesus is not merely the man born of Mary, but predated all things. Do you know what you call one who creates all things? Who is eternal? You call such a being a god.


149 posted on 02/06/2007 8:53:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
But the bible doesn't say God is IN Jesus.

And I didn't say that God was in Jesus, I said God was in Christ.

That's a slick little deceptive trick!

But once again you are simply wrong on what the Bible says or doesn't say.

Jhn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

2Cr 12:19 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but [we do] all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.

Gal 3:17 And this I say, [that] the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Phl 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

It says Jesus is God.

Chapter and verse please.

Jesus is both God and Man.

Chapter and verse please.

God exists in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Again, chapter and verse please.

You have shown a solid tendency to make unsupported claims and claims without reference as I have done above, and I know why.

There is no verse that says "God the Son", "Trininty", "God the Holy Spirit", "Jesus is God", etc.

Nothing at all. That's why you can't use the Bible to support those claims and you never will.

153 posted on 02/07/2007 8:10:16 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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