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To: Serviam1

Rob:

Don't you know you have to go into schism to get any respect from the Bishops? Just look at what has been lavished upon former schismatics (FSSP, SSJ, IGS, etc.) compared to the faithful who never left.

The best way to preserve Holy Trinity would be to figure out a way to buy it or lease it long term like this and then go into schism and bring in your own priest, who can then petition for reconciliation after a few years. Sad but true.


15 posted on 02/05/2007 10:39:10 AM PST by Andrew Byler
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To: Andrew Byler

Andy,

In a sense, you might be giving the archbishop and the chancery too much credit with regard to sedevacantist groups. Such groups have been around here for a long time, and the archdiocese has barely even raised an eyelid to notice them. Indeed, the sede CMRI group from Washington State has embarked on a "mission" in the Boston area (waiting like vultures for Holy Trinity to close), and they entice over 300 people every week to show up at their Sunday Mass in a Woburn motel. That's nearly half-again what we can manage at HT. They are openly proselytizing downtown, in the North End, East Boston and other places, and have been at this for at least two years now, yet the archdiocese seems to have been unaware of their presence until members of our parish pointed this out to them last summer! The SSPX and other schismatic or sedevacantist groups have likewise been navigating in our waters without causing a blip on the archbishop's radar. The chancery's response is a yawn.

But! Let this Johnny-come-lately sede group have the temerity to lease a church building that the archdiocese voluntarily sold off, and their hypocritical public angst over "non-Catholic groups" suddenly gets plastered all through the media! The only discernable reason for the sudden archdiocesan "concern" over leading people astray seems to stem from the fact that these folks have set up shop in a recognizable Catholic Church building. They have no discernable concern when such groups set up in storefronts, motels and private homes. This tells me that their "concern" is more about issues of "turf" than the salvation of souls. The scandal adhering to this situation is mind numbing.

Nevertheless, the suggestion that the Holy Trinity Indult community should go into schism itself as some sort of ploy to retain the building is a non-starter. If, in the end, the building is sold out from under us, such action will be a canonical malfeasance resting on the archbishop's head alone; we will not sin ourselves by becoming schismatic in an uber-pragmatic mind game with God to save our church. God forbid! Our situation is not the first in which loyal members of the Catholic Church have been persecuted from within. It doubtless won't be the last, either. We must still have faith that, even now, God will provide the just and equitable solution we have all been praying for over these nearly three years. Legal canonical remedies are still very much at our disposal. In those measures and in less tangible ones, God WILL provide for us; we need to trust His lead.


24 posted on 02/05/2007 2:24:49 PM PST by magisterium
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To: Andrew Byler
Just look at what has been lavished upon former schismatics (FSSP, SSJ, IGS, etc.) compared to the faithful who never left.

Well, the heavens rejoice when the single sinner returns versus the 99 that never strayed. I daresay that most of our American Bishops are not interested in treating the more traditional Catholics well, let alone those wavering in schism.

46 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:53 PM PST by technochick99 (www.YourDogStuff.com)
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