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To: franky

Which is pretty much the whole crux of the problem with purgatory. It chalks man's salvation up to his own abilities to save himself after the fact rather than to God's supreme power, judgement, and mercy.


85 posted on 01/29/2007 12:15:24 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

balderdash. It does no such thing.


100 posted on 01/29/2007 12:39:02 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: kawaii
Balderdash. You have made that charge a few times already.

Prove it.

Cite the Catechism entry which Teaches we save ourselves after death, as you, falsely, charge

107 posted on 01/29/2007 12:43:16 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: kawaii
It chalks man's salvation up to his own abilities to save himself after the fact rather than to God's supreme power, judgement, and mercy.

No. If one is in purgatory, then he won't be going to hell, that is, he is saved. There needs to be a purgation or purification before entering heaven. The souls in purgatory can do nothing for themselves.

390 posted on 01/29/2007 9:19:38 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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