[Alex Murphy]

If one follows the Church's teaching, the Blessed Virgin Mary was conceived in an immaculate state, thus negating any need to be born again.

It's refreshing to find a Catholic who actually admits to this. You have no idea how many times we've argued your exact point with other Catholics on FR, only to be told we've got it wrong.

[wagglebee]

I don't understand. What did they argue with? Obviously, if you adhere to Church dogma on the Immaculate Conception, the Blessed Virgin Mary would never have needed to be born again.