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To: kawaii
Hmmm it's tough to say which has less scriptural/historical support: the idea that folks will just disappear into heaven in some sort of pre-second-coming rapture, or that folks get to 'work off' sins in some sort of inter-life-death-waiting-room.

I've finally found a post of yours I can (almost) agree with! 8~)

Certainly, of the two, the latter is far more contrary to Scripture and borders on heresy by explicitly denying that the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the cross has paid for the sins of His sheep.

The bizarre notion of purgatory always reminds me of the after-death waiting room scene in "Beetlejuice."

Purgatory is a dangerous, ungodly fiction.

20 posted on 01/29/2007 9:16:06 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Purgatory is a dangerous, ungodly fiction."

Purgatory is Gehenna.
So is Hell.
Same place. Two functions.
Ask Jesus, his audience, or any other Jew (other than a Sadduccee!) then or since.
It's Biblical.
So, if Purgatory is what you have said it is, then the Gospels (where Jesus refers to Purgatory/Hell using the Jewish term therefore) is a fiction.
I know you don't believe that.

Do not be so certain of your doctrines.
Some of them are in error.
Which won't cost you your soul, of course, but it will give you a lot of bruising of others to answer for at Judgment.
Du calme!


22 posted on 01/29/2007 9:20:36 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Certainly, of the two, the latter is far more contrary to Scripture and borders on heresy by explicitly denying that the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the cross has paid for the sins of His sheep.

Purgatory is a dangerous, ungodly fiction.

What's "ungodly" is the "Reformist" view of the atonement of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ - that once your accept Jesus as your Saviour, your sins past, present, and future are "covered." It's as if one's conduct, whether good or wicked, doesn't matter, as long as you accept Jesus as your Saviour. This view is contrary to the Gospel itself.

24 posted on 01/29/2007 9:24:24 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

from an orthodox perspective both seem pretty heretical especially when taken strictly literally...

that said i also picture the beatleguice waiting room when pondering purgatory...


29 posted on 01/29/2007 9:53:57 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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