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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg
Christ didn't die for the righteous, but for the sinner.

Amen, GC. as the great Hermann Sasse reminds us, The church, that is, Ubi Christus, ibi ecclesia, lives from Repentence.

Only a sinner must repent, not a righteous man, but since there is no such perfectly righteous man, except for Jesus, then all need to repent. The sinner was justified and the publican not. Through humility (as did blessed Abel) he approached God, and declared himself a sinner, and I never got the impression that this was a one time declaration of sin in a mere moment of time.

And as far as the purgatory thing is concerned. We went from it being a suburb of hell, to a suburb of heaven and now a brief nanosecond in time when the dross of sin is refined away through fire (I'm presuming the mechanism remains the same, but who knows?)

132 posted on 01/29/2007 12:58:58 PM PST by AlbionGirl (What is the sound of ecumenism happening?)
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To: AlbionGirl
We went from it being a suburb of hell, to a suburb of heaven and now a brief nanosecond in time when the dross of sin is refined away through fire (I'm presuming the mechanism remains the same, but who knows?)

Exactly. The descriptions vary according to mood, apparently.

135 posted on 01/29/2007 1:01:27 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg
I'll have to hit my 1952 Catechism to see if there's more info on purgatory to be had.

I was looking through there a few weeks ago, and on the section on Faith, at the end of a chapter, I tried to answer the questions assigned. Did better than I thought I would do, but here's a point of interest for you guys.

The test consisted of two columns. One lists an activity and the other lists a description of the activity, so in the first column was listed participation in a Protestant service, and in the second column, the answer I chose was mortal sin, and I was right.

148 posted on 01/29/2007 1:08:04 PM PST by AlbionGirl (What is the sound of ecumenism happening?)
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