The Doctrine of Purgatory

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Eschatology/Eschatology_006.htm ^ | Unknown | Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J

[pjr12345]

So, you deny the Easter Bunny is gay?

So, you admit that you believe in the Easter Bunny!

I'll bet he's in Purgatory with Santa and the Tooth Fairy right this very minute!

[bornacatholic]

You are wrong in what you are claiming. That you do so dogmatically while criticising the Church is a scandal. I am too busy to deal with this now. I will as soon as I have time.

[bornacatholic]

i knew you had no proof. However, don't let that stop ya from caluminiating others

[Dr. Eckleburg]

If I've learned anything on these FR threads, it is that not one Protestant was killed, burned, tortured, hanged, dismembered or in any way harmed by any churchmen of Rome.

All those millions of dead bodies are just imaginative nay-sayers.

(Pssst! The counter Reformation never ended.)

[bornacatholic]

CALUMNY. Injuring another person's good name by lying. It is doubly sinful, in unjustly depriving another of his good name and in telling an untruth. Since calumny violates justice, it involves the duty of making reparation for the foreseen injury inflicted. Hence the calumniator must try, not only to repair the harm done to another's good name, but also to make up for any foreseen temporal loss that resulted from the calumny, for example, loss of employment or customers. (Etym. Latin calumnia, a false accusation, malicious charge; from calvi, to deceive.)

*Seeing as how the Pope is dead, try an apology..it might shorten your time in purgatory :)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I'd rather be a pirate.

[1000 silverlings]

caluminiating? I always think of Omaha when I hear calumnating

[stfassisi]

Your Scripture interpretations are your own or at best 500 years old.

I,ll bet more than half of your Scripture interpretations would differ with the mass protestant confusion of 40,000 plus and growing denominations .

I,ll stick with the Church that has produced a whole host of Saintly Children and clearly and consistently interpreted Scripture through 2000 years.
That Bible that you seem to want to worship came out of that same Catholic Church!

[1000 silverlings]

I'd rather be a pirate.

Okay, go here

http://www.piratequiz.com/

[Vicomte13]

"Those who teach Purgatory teach another gospel. Sorry, but it is ANOTHER Gospel."

True. It's not the "gospel" (as interpreted by some) according to Paul in Romans.
It's the Gospel according to Jesus, in the Gospels.
Where he says "Gehenna", and where he tells people what they have to DO (ongoing basis) to not get thrown there.

I can't see any basis to read Paul to overrule Jesus.
So I don't do so.

It seems to me that Jesus laid out a simple and clear set of beliefs and standards, and called for the repentance for those who fall short. He set a standard of judgment which differs for each man (i.e., a subjective standard, based on the man, not an objective standard based on fixed punishments) in which he says you will be judged using the standard you have used to judge others. An example where Jesus saved people from doing something heinous? "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone."

The further we track away from Jesus' words and deeds, the more of a morass the Bible becomes.

[pjr12345]

Hold on there a minute, Doc!

Who are you to disagree with Catholic dogma that has been woven together across more than a millenium of time? The efforts of untold myriad of RCCers created the tapestry of Tradition that you so flippantly undermine.

In an earlier day, your attempts to confound the Roman Church with Truth would be met with fire. Today, righteous indignation, and a reliance on the longevity of the fraud is the strongest weapons in the arsenal.

Thank God for His mercy and deliverance!

[pjr12345]

The Nazis didn't kill any "humans" either.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

That Bible that you seem to want to worship came out of that same Catholic Church!

No, it came out in spite of it.

[pjr12345]

I,ll stick with the Church that has produced a whole host of Saintly Children

Do you have to go to mass on each one of their feast days?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Exactly the same myopic logic.

Last year I remember our RC FRiends insisting the 100,000 dead Huguenots were really just a few slackers and a couple cows.

[pjr12345]

They should never have reinstalled that Catholic King!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Today, righteous indignation, and a reliance on the longevity of the fraud is the strongest weapons in the arsenal.

We can only hope that is true.

Thank God for His mercy and deliverance!

AMEN!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Yep. They brought it on themselves.

[Running On Empty]

No--but we can if we want to. :-)

[Iscool]

This will be fun and interesting.-;)

Fun maybe, but not interesting...Catholics are taught (not by the bible) by their church that Jesus' death on the cross was not enough for their salvation...

But Catholics have one thing figured right...Catholics and Protestants believe in salvation by two different routes...One group is trying to sneak in to heaven by using the back door...

We are not brothers and sisters in Christ because one group is not 'in' Christ and Christ is not 'in' that same group...

So the big question is, 'Was God's Son Jesus' sacrifice, once for all, enough to save us??? Did Jesus die that we may live??? OR, can we become righteous enough ourselves to merit a spot in God's Kingdom...