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To: bornacatholic
BTW, BAC, you forgot to note that it was the protestants Luther and Melanchthon who condemned the Catholic Canonist Copernicus..

Nicholas Copernicus, who first advanced the contrary doctrine that the sun and not the earth is the centre of our system, round which our planet revolves, rotating on its own axis. His great work, "De Revolutionibus orblure coelestium", was published at the earnest solicitation of two distinguished churchmen, Cardinal Schömberg and Tiedemann Giese, Bishop of Culm. It was dedicated by permission to Pope Paul III in order, as Copernicus explained, that it might be thus protected from the attacks which it was sure to encounter on the part of the "mathematicians" (i.e. philosophers) for its apparent contradiction of the evidence of our senses, and even of common sense. He added that he made no account of objections which might be brought by ignorant wiseacres on Scriptural grounds. Indeed, for nearly three quarters of a century no such difficulties were raised on the Catholic side...

*Also, bac, you forgot to note that Calvin taught that science was evil and forbade his followers from studying it

Good point, son.

False attacks on Galileo are meant to indict the Catholic Church as an enemy of science when it was, in fact, the Catholic Church which preserved and advanced science. In fact, the error-filled work this thread is based upon was done at a University.

Right,son

Who invented the University? The Catholic Church

Yup. Good point.

BTW, note the INELUCTABLE patern reproduced here. The topic of the thread has dissolved and something else has taken its place.

Right you are, man. It happens ALL the time

32 posted on 01/26/2007 4:31:05 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic; sitetest; BlackElk
Hey, Bac

What?

Melanchton was much worse than what you just posted.

Yeah. I know. I was being "nice"

OK, but don't you think it important to point out to the lurkers that OL' Mel, while he rejected science was as addicted to astrology as Nancy Reagan?

LOL True. Get a load of this...

One of the most curious features of Melanchthon's character . . . was his morbid tendency to superstition. For example, at the time of the Diet of Augsburg he wrote that several prodigious portents seemed to favour the success of Lutheranism: the bursting of the Tiber's banks, the prolonged labour of a mule, the birth of a two-headed calf were all signs which suggested Rome's ruin. By contrast, when his daughter fell ill, Melanchthon was filled with terror by the unfavourable aspect of Mars. The superstitious man never did anything without consulting astrologers.

*Huh...but, that can't be. I am always being told it was the Catholics who were the enemies of science. Well, certainly Luther's condemnation of Copernicus and Ol Mel's lunacy was an aberration...

Not so fast, Rosary-fingers...Get a load of this....

Calvin's Academy of Geneva, was based upon the protestant "insight" about "diabolica scientia,"

Science was evil? According to the protestant genius, Calvin, it was. Science advanced by Protestantism? Not so much

Hey..

What?

Don't forget Kepler, the German Astronomer.

Thanks. I almost forgot. He was prevented by protestant theologians from publishing his work.

Yep. And the weird thing is Kepler hadn't even been BORN when Pope Clement was having pleasing and positive audiences with the Catholic Canonist Copernicus about his theories...So, will these facts change anything?

LOL Son, we are talking ideology. Facts can't pierce anything as impenetrable as ideology.

34 posted on 01/26/2007 5:09:42 AM PST by bornacatholic
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