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Solemnity of the Assumption
CatholicExchange.com ^ | 08-15-06 | Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:45:51 PM PST by Salvation

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To: blue-duncan; Lil Flower; P-Marlowe; Gamecock; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; xzins; Dahlseide; Diamond
Gee, Paul preached after making tents all day. My father worked the third shift in a factory and took no salary while pastoring a church for 30 years so that the offerings would go towards the ministry. He educated two lawyers, two school teachers, a pastor and a family therapist and served in the Peace Corps and started his last church at age 80. I think I'll stick with the one who has real life experiences as well as a heart for the Lord than a cloistered theologian. Bunyan the tinker and Carey the cobbler come readily to mind.

Wow. What a tremendous family; what a gift from God. You really should write a book. The world needs to hear how healthy, happy, productive, righteous families live and grow and flourish, by the grace of God.

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." -- Ecclesiastes 12:13

As that old Romanist himself, William Buckley, once said, the key to life is gratitude. It puts everything into perspective and orients us correctly -- towards Jesus Christ alone.

81 posted on 01/26/2007 5:20:01 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: pjr12345

So what is your definition.

When you honor Mary, His Mother, are not you also honoring Jesus Christ, true God and true Man?


82 posted on 01/26/2007 5:20:27 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: FourtySeven

**recent debates!)**

My reason for posting it, exactly. And I have it cached away! Hehehehe!


83 posted on 01/26/2007 5:21:21 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: magisterium

Very wise words. We will take them into consideration. Please post more often!


84 posted on 01/26/2007 5:26:08 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: magisterium

**Not enough sleep this week, I guess!**

Working too hard? LOL! Nevertheless, it was an excellent post.


85 posted on 01/26/2007 5:27:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pjr12345

**"Ave Maria"**

Bone up on your Latin, friend.

That means, "Hail Mary."

And even the Angel, Gabriel, in Luke, used those words!


86 posted on 01/26/2007 5:29:50 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pjr12345

**"Co-Redeemer"**

Catholics do not use this term for Mary. Where are you getting your information?

Another question?

Have you ever asked anyone to pray for you? That is what intercessor, interceding means. The Blessed Mother interceded for the groom and bride at the Wedding of Cana when they ran out of wine. She asked for help.

Her Son, Jesus, gave the help!


87 posted on 01/26/2007 5:32:00 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pjr12345
FYI

Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary

The Protestant Reformers on the Virgin Mary

88 posted on 01/26/2007 5:33:07 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pjr12345

At your church do you say a CREED?

There is a line in our Creed that we say at Mass and in the Apostles Creed that we say at other times about the resurrection of the dead. Just curious?


89 posted on 01/26/2007 5:35:38 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pjr12345

**Q: What is the difference between catholics praying to dead people and hindus praying to dead relatives?**

Your getting off the topic of the Solemnity of the Assumption -- come back to the discussion, please.


90 posted on 01/26/2007 5:36:31 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Maybe it's time to start using the caucus more. Although, there will probably be just a "companion" thread demeaning the Blessed Mother.


91 posted on 01/26/2007 5:40:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: siunevada

You may be right. Ask me again in about four weeks when I'm totally finished with a Bible Study of Revelation.

We have already talked about the brass feet of Jesus. Brass in the Bible represent steadfastness and standing firm for truth.


92 posted on 01/26/2007 5:40:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Iscool

**Guess if Peter was a large rock, Jesus wouldn't have named him Cephas...**

He did. But then maybe you have another translation of the Bible that is different. But those words are in our Bible.


93 posted on 01/26/2007 5:41:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: siunevada

Beautiful picture, BTW.


94 posted on 01/26/2007 5:42:14 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ScubieNuc

** What is preached? The Word. Not oral traditions. **

This thread is not about Holy Tradition vs. Holy Scripture but rather about the Solemnity of the Assumption.

If you can't discuss the Assumption, please find another thread.


95 posted on 01/26/2007 5:44:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Iscool; FourtySeven; Salvation
Peter may have been your first pope, but there is no pope in the church Jesus started...

So, would you then assert that the Epistles written by Peter SHOULD NOT be included in Canon and are actually heretical? Because if Peter started a "false church," then there should be no credence given to anything he wrote. And if this is what you are saying, then you are saying something that Christians HAVE NEVER BELIEVED.

96 posted on 01/26/2007 5:54:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Salvation
You posted...This thread is not about Holy Tradition vs. Holy Scripture but rather about the Solemnity of the Assumption.

If you can't discuss the Assumption, please find another thread.


First off, I was commenting on one persons belief that you need to go to "learned men" to be wise about Scripture. I posted Scripture that that comment made me think of.

Second, this is in the actual article on Assumption that started this thread...

There is no eyewitness account of this actual event recorded in the Bible.

Well if it's taught by the Catholic Church and it's not in the Bible, where does this belief come from? Could it be.....Oral Traditions?

Third, I understand that you don't want your thread hijacked, but the reality is that side topics happen all the time. If they wind up with more responses then your original thread, then I would say that this is the "free hand" of internet interest. Get a more interesting topic and people wont feel the need to go elsewhere with it.

Fourth, as another Catholic once told me, when I was trying to stay on one specific topic with him, "It's like a web, it all is interconnected. You mess with one thread, they all shake." (or something along that line)

I won't comment anymore on your thread, unless someone challenges my Scriptural beliefs on my post.

Good night to you, sir.
97 posted on 01/26/2007 6:27:16 PM PST by ScubieNuc (I have no tagline. I wish I did. If I did, it would probably be too long and not fit completely on t)
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98 posted on 01/26/2007 6:28:25 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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99 posted on 01/26/2007 6:28:52 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: HarleyD
is your father a Saint as defined by the Roman Catholic Church,

I presume you mean a formally canonized saint, one who in life demonstrated heroic virtue in his devotion to God. Mmmm, don't think so, but with God all things are possible, right? In another RC sense, yes I do think he's a saint:

946 After confessing "the holy catholic Church," the Apostles' Creed adds "the communion of saints." In a certain sense this article is a further explanation of the preceding: "What is the Church if not the assembly of all the saints?"479 The communion of saints is the Church.
479 Nicetas, Expl. Symb., 10:PL 52:871B.

962 "We believe in the communion of all the faithful of Christ, those who are pilgrims on earth, the dead who are being purified, and the blessed in heaven, all together forming one Church; and we believe that in this communion, the merciful love of God and his saints is always [attentive] to our prayers" (Paul VI, CPG § 30).

do you take your troubles to him on a regular basis,

Troubles? No. I imagine he still expects me to stand on my own two feet.

and do you feel that he will intercede for you?

If it's necessary. Just because I think he's in heaven I don't think his love and concern is diminished. You remember what Jesus said to the Sadducees: "have you not read what was said to you by God,
'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

100 posted on 01/26/2007 7:39:58 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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