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To: Joseph DeMaistre; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; pjr12345; editor-surveyor; LiteKeeper; ...
Sola Scriptura is a 16th century innovation, in my book every bit as severe as the finding of the "Book of Mormon."

Mary worship is a fourth century invention. The infallibility of the Pope is a 19th Century invention. The office of the Pope is a fourth century invention. The inclusion of the Apocrypha in the Cannon is a 16th Century invention. The assumption of Mary is a twentieth century invention. The witholding of the wine from the laity at communion is a 16th Century invention.

Need I go on?

144 posted on 01/24/2007 10:41:22 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Joseph DeMaistre
My mistake.. the office of Pope is a seventh Century invention.

Sorry about that.

145 posted on 01/24/2007 10:50:26 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
Mary worship is a fourth century invention.

There's no such thing as "Mary worship". If you're referring to the practice of human beings honoring the Mother of Jesus, that goes back to Luke 1:42

"And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. "

The infallibility of the Pope is not a 19th century invention. The Church always believed, in unity, that the Magisterium is infallible. Infallibilty had to be DEFINED because of the scourge of Protestantism and the trail of souls they drew away from the body of Christ by asserting that the popes were demonic.

The inclusion of the Apocrypha is not a 16th century invention. Pope Damasus announced the canon of the Old and New Testaments at the Council of Rome, issuing the Decretum Gelasianum, which explicitly included the Apocrypha. It wasn't until Luther removed these books that the Church was compelled to DEFINE (that is, bring to FINALITY) any discussion on what comprises Sacred Scripture.

The Assumption of Mary is not a 20th century invention. At the Council of Chalcedon in 451, when bishops from throughout the Mediterranean world gathered in Constantinople, Emperor Marcian asked the Patriarch of Jerusalem to bring the relics of Mary to Constantinople to be enshrined in the capitol. The patriarch explained to the emperor that there were no relics of Mary in Jerusalem, that "Mary had died in the presence of the apostles; but her tomb, when opened later . . . was found empty and so the apostles concluded that the body was taken up into heaven."

The feast, "Memory of Mary", was celebrated in Palestine after the building of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 336. This feast was changed to the "Assumption of Mary" following the Council of Chalcedon I mentioned above.

The witholding of the wine from the laity at communion is a 16th Century invention.

This was in response to the heretic Ultraquists, who insisted that the host did not contain both the body and blood of Jesus - that it was requisite to consume both species. No Catholic needs to receive both species. One or the other suffices.

174 posted on 01/25/2007 8:15:52 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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