It's Loraine. He's a guy.
As to Augustine, he got some things more right than others. But you're reading way too much into the quotes you've offered which seldom support the extra-Biblical conclusions you draw.
But thanks for the words of Augustine, who was born in 354 and died in 430, long before so much of the debilitating, anti-Scriptural, unGodly errors of Rome permeated the church of God on earth and set themselves in stone.
This is the answer to bornacatholic's post!?
Does the examination of St Augustine's writings vis-a-vis Calvinism not merit a serious response or were you speaking 'ex cathedra'?
Seriously, this is your thread and I'm interested to learn how these points are met. You've been given quite a few quotes with which to deal. How about discussing a few of the more obvious problematic ones.
In his doctrines of sin and grace, he went far beyond the earlier theologians, taught an unconditional election of grace, and restricted the purposes of redemption to the definite circle of the elect.
He taught that the whole race fell in Adam, that all men by nature are depraved and spiritually dead, that the will is free to sin but not free to do good toward God, that Christ suffered vicariously for His people, that God elects whom He will irrespective of their merits, and that saving grace is efficaciously applied to the elect by the Holy Spirit.
These are not claims about God, but about St Augustine. You've made a claim. But if you wish more than to preach to the choir, defend it in the face of counter-examples. And please, please defend against the counter-examples, as a 'cut and paste' of more quotes that don't speak to the above quotes would serve only to argue posthumously for his committal.
*Oh
As to Augustine, he got some things more right than others. But you're reading way too much into the quotes you've offered which seldom support the extra-Biblical conclusions you draw.
*Really? I thought my quotes from St. Augustine were quite specific and easily understandable and not susceptible to irrationally drawn conclusions.
But thanks for the words of Augustine, who was born in 354 and died in 430, long before so much of the debilitating, anti-Scriptural, unGodly errors of Rome permeated the church of God on earth and set themselves in stone.
*You are welcome.
I have more, you know. St. Augustine is quite Catholic. Isn't a pity you don't have any Saints you can quote? :)