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St. Augustine....He was handed over for our offenses, and he rose again for our justification. What does this mean, "for our justification"? So that He might justify us; so that he might make us just. You will be a work of God, not only because you are a man, but also because you are just. For it is better that you be just than that you be a man. If God made you a man, and you made yourself just, something you were doing would be better than what God did. But God made you without any cooperation on your part. For you did not lend your consent so that God could make you. How could you have consented when you did not exist? But He who made you without your consent does not justify you without your consent. He made you without your knowledge but He does not justify you without your willing it

*Now, I understand why the man who thought science was evil, Jean Cauvin, would try and steal our great Catholic Saint and claim him as some sort of crypto-calvinist, but, it is just silly. I mean, I thought it was all about sola scriptura not trying to fool others into thinking a Catholic invented Calvinistic ideology.

I really wonder WHY those who do follow Calvin put up with the lies he told them.

I mean, I used to live in New England and not one Red Sox Fan worth his salt would tolerate a Red Sox Media Guide publishing a photo of Yogi Berra with the caption, "Greatest Red Sox Cather of All Time."

But, hey, that is just New Englanders...:)

But, hey, that is just New Englanders.

Too bad New England won't get a chance to lose against the Bears.

Now, I understand why the man who thought science was evil, Jean Cauvin, would try and steal our great Catholic Saint and claim him as some sort of crypto-calvinist, but, it is just silly. I mean, I thought it was all about sola scriptura not trying to fool others into thinking a Catholic invented Calvinistic ideology.

Truth will out.

A TREATISE ON THE PREDESTINATION OF THE SAINTS