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1 posted on 01/19/2007 2:13:35 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: sionnsar; Huber; newheart

Anglican ping?


2 posted on 01/19/2007 2:13:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: rabscuttle385
As a Church we cannot and will not work to subvert that ancient precedent...

Funny. KJS & the rest of TEC sure didn't have second thoughts about subverting many other "ancient precedent[s]" at the General Conventions of the past few years.

3 posted on 01/19/2007 2:15:42 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: rabscuttle385; sionnsar

"Congregations exist because they are in communion with the bishop of a diocese, through recognition by diocesan governing bodies (diocesan synods, councils, or conventions)"

Silly woman doesn't understand what "communion" means. I think it is undoubtedly true that congregations cannot exist unless they are under the omophorion of a bishop, but that has nothing to do with "being in communion". That is a relationship among bishops.

This woman is correct about the canons of The Church, of which she is demonstrably NOT a part, that jumping diocesan boundries is forbidden. Indeed, a bishop who does that must be removed. But those canons presuppose communion between the bishops in question. If Archbishop Akinola and Bishop Lee are not in communion, then Akinola has committed no offense. If they are, then Akinola has indeed committed a very serious offense. The same goes for the other non revisionist bishops who have come into the TEC "territory".


6 posted on 01/19/2007 3:28:08 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ancient precedent (from as early as the fourth century) in the Church ...

Holy moly, did anybody ever tell that idiot what the ancient church of 100 AD through this day has always taught about homosexuality? Oddly enough, it's still condemned in Holy Scriptures in anyone's Bible, Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox. If she's going to go citing the ancient church, she'd better do a little more homework, and a little less assets grabbing.

8 posted on 01/19/2007 4:19:28 PM PST by xJones
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To: rabscuttle385

The Episcopal boundary Nazi speaks


9 posted on 01/19/2007 4:22:15 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: rabscuttle385
Congregations exist because they are in communion with the bishop of a diocese, through recognition by diocesan governing bodies (diocesan synods, councils, or conventions).

Methinks she needs review Virginia's history? What came first, the chicken or the egg? In this case, the congregation preexisted the diocese AND the national church.

This lady looses more and more respect everyday. I hope she doesn't learn how to keep her mouth shut, because people NEED to hear her apostasy in order to make the leap of faith that these VA churches are making.

10 posted on 01/19/2007 4:30:12 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: rabscuttle385; Kolokotronis; lightman
The recent decisions by some members of congregations in Virginia to leave the Episcopal Church and ally with the Anglican Church of Nigeria have no cognizance in our polity. Ancient precedent (from as early as the fourth century) in the Church requires bishops to respect diocesan boundaries, and to refrain from crossing into or acting officially in dioceses other than their own. As a Church we cannot and will not work to subvert that ancient precedent by facilitating the establishment of congregations which are purportedly responsible to bishops in other parts of the Anglican Communion within the diocesan boundaries of the Episcopal Church.

What if a congregation were under a bishop who became Arian or Muhammedan, and it wanted to be under an orthodox bishop? Would that make a difference in "boundary jumping"?

It seems to me that becoming "UN Millennium Goals-ian" is analogous to becoming Arian or even Muhammedan.

11 posted on 01/19/2007 5:06:57 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: rabscuttle385

She's quite the tactful lady, isn't she?


12 posted on 01/19/2007 5:28:06 PM PST by altura (Woefully lacking in delicacy and tact, but working on it.)
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