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To: HarleyD; dangus
...and if all one must do is OBEY, even if it's to obey the teachings and the sacraments of the church, how does one know that they've OBEYED completely? Plus, scripture is full of God's comment that He really isn't concerned with our outward acts of worship or sacrifice as much as He's concerned with the condition of our hearts.

The comments about faith in Jesus being a bit insufficient and wobbly, compared to faith in the church, is frankly a bit disconcerting. My faith is in Christ, and His finished work on the cross on my behalf. There is only one mediator now between man and God, and that is Jesus Christ, not a priesthood, not the hoops of sacraments, not the saints, not the church. If anyone puts their faith in anything other than Christ for salvation, they're running a severe risk of missing it.

208 posted on 01/12/2007 7:59:18 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: My2Cents

Jesus gave the Church to us to explain how we are to obey Him and to provide us with an opportunity to serve Him.

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." John 14:21

"Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me." John 14:23-24

"Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:44-46

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28: 19-20

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me." John 13:20

"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:42


224 posted on 01/12/2007 9:28:23 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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