Posted on 01/05/2007 6:30:35 PM PST by sionnsar
As you may or may not know from watching the Ford services at the National Cathedral, he was Episcopal, and one of the things Ford was concerned about before his death , which he had talked over with his pastor...was the division in his church.
As if the Washington Post cares whether a story is based on the truth.
The Division within the Episcopal Church is over gay Priests. Guess some don't like it.
Gay priests are the symptom; the drift away from The Bible and towards secular humanism is the root of the matter.
Don't turn your back on the Post.
Superficial statement: the division goes much deeper than that, and reaches far longer back.
The division within the Episcopal Church is who is authoritative in the Church, Christ through His word, or speculating bishops and priests, through their following avant garde social trends?
I did notice Fr. Certain's comment trying to make President Ford on the side those tearing the Episcopal Church apart with their shameful perversions. Whether they were true of Ford's thoughts or not, the priest's comments were wholly inappropriate.
Hey I am a Methodist, I am only telling you what my Sister who goes to an Episcopal Church , who married an Episcopalian told me .
Analogreign,
I took note of his comments, and thought it was very interesting. I don't know that it was inappropriate? If it was , it was so tastefully done, who would be offended?
She goes to an Episcopal Church that married an Episcopalian? Explains much! *\;-)
Seriously, if that's her understanding she's badly misinformed -- and undereducated. It goes much deeper than that and far longer ago than that.
Sounds like it must be somewhere in the 1979 BCP, Rite II, Eucharistic Prayer C.
Sionnsar , look no need to insult my sister, she couldn't help it if her husband was an Episcopalian. You sure are an arrogant self righteous person.
Lookie here mr sionnsar, read it from Gay City what was said by Reverend Dr. Robert Certain.
'The Reverend Dr. Robert Certain, who gave the homily at the funeral for Gerald R. Ford at the National Cathedral on Tuesday, said when he told the former president that he was headed for an Episcopal convocation, "He asked me if we would face schism after we discussed the various issues we would consider, particularly concerns about human sexuality and the leadership of women. He said he did not think they should be divisive for anyone who lived by the great commandments and the great commission to love God and to love neighbor."
The worldwide Anglican Communion has begun to splinter over the acceptance of gay people, particularly the U.S. Episcopal Church's 2003 consecration of the Right Reverend Gene Robinson, an out gay man with a partner, as bishop of New Hampshire.
Ford was an Episcopalian and Certain was his pastor at St. Margaret's Church in Palm Desert, California.
Former President Jimmy Carter, later eulogizing Ford in Michigan, also made reference to their mutual concern over the split among religious people on issues of "sexual preference" that he said they both believed should not be central. "
http://www.gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17671033&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568857&rfi=6
I guess we know where you stand, don't we? That cheap shot you took at my husband is evidence enough.
The Gospel is inherently divisive. Jesus Christ himself predicted that "...a man's enemies would be the members of his own household." That certainly is true of the Episcopal Church. The choice is clear for those who have eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts to humbly receive the Truth. "By their fruits ye shall know them." God is dividing the sheep from the goats, and the wheat from the tares - like it or not, judgement is beginning with the house of God. It's not a pretty scene, but oh, so necessary. And to those who remain in apostate churches I recommend you get out while you still can.
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