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To: Cap'n Crunch
There is no historical basis for being "Saved."

I have asked numerous people over the years if they have been saved...When meeting a Catholic, I have always gotten the response of "I'm Catholic" or "I was born Catholic"...

Getting 'saved' seems to not have been an issue in your religion...I can see why you would say there is no historical basis for it (in your religion)...

There is no Biblical standing for it either, without taking Scripture out of context.

You are way wrong here...

Act 2:21 And it shalt come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Act 16:30 And bringing them out, he said: Masters, what must I do, that I may be saved?

Act 16:30 And bringing them out, he said: Masters, what must I do, that I may be saved?

Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together in Christ (by whose grace you are saved)

Eph 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God.

And this from your own Catholic bible...How can one take it out of context...You are either saved from Hell, from damnation, from wrath...

It may not be a big issue in your church but it's a mighty big issue in God's church and the word of God...You can't be a Christian without first being saved...

Getting saved is an event...It's something you experience...You can't be born into it...You can't get it by going to church...You can't get it from a church...

Once you've been saved, you will never forget it...It's the most important thing you will do in your lifetime...

If your ministers of the gospel at your church don't teach you that, there's nothing else they could teach worth listening to...

64 posted on 12/29/2006 8:15:34 PM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Iscool

What about Baptism?

It's easy to go through scripture and pick out every verse that says 'call on the Lord and you will be saved.'

Jesus instituted the Sacrament of Baptism. Jesus Himself was baptised. John the Baptist baptised countless people, the Apostles did likewise. Baptism has continued to this very day.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the disciples walked around telling people "accept Jesus as your personal saviour" and every thing would be peachy.


77 posted on 12/30/2006 5:32:44 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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