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To: bornacatholic

I discern my salvation through faith in Christ.

Faith + Works voids a saving faith.

Faith + Obedience voids a saving faith.

Faith + Inviting the Lord into your Heart voids a saving faith.

Once one has a valid simple saving faith, God the Holy Spirit performs the work of salvation in the believer.

If one denies the saving work of the Holy Spirit, then one grieves the Holy Spirit.

By 1stJohn 1:9 we return into fellowship with Him upon turning back to Him with volition and admitting our disobedience to Him. This places our thinking in a state of humility that allows God the Holy Spirit to continue His enabling ministry in our thinking to put on the mind of Christ.

For this reason, whenever we sin after salvation we seek to return to him on His grounds.

If we are unable to return to Him in our thinking or confess those sins, He is not free to further sanctify us prior to the first death. The Judgment will come, and those things which are good in us will be baptised by fire. For believers who have the reborn spirit and saving faith through Christ, life continues eternally. For those who never had eternal life, awaits the Torments.

BTW, you may want to revisit basic concepts of simple faith as opposed to obedience and keeping the law. God desires a relationship with His believers. That relationship only occurs through faith. Without faith through Christ, studying Scripture will only scar the soul in legalism.


236 posted on 01/02/2007 2:32:44 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
That relationship only occurs through faith

*That is an unbiblical assertion. Jesus, among other things, feeds us with His Body and Blood in the Eucharist. There is no more intimate relationship possible

239 posted on 01/03/2007 6:03:07 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Cvengr
I discern my salvation through faith in Christ.

Faith + Works voids a saving faith.

But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

Faith + Obedience voids a saving faith.

If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Faith + Inviting the Lord into your Heart voids a saving faith.

Grace precedes faith which is the very act of the Lord entering your heart. Faith begets belief and belief moves the faithful believer to cooperate in works, obedient to his will. Read Matthew 25 again.

242 posted on 01/05/2007 9:50:50 PM PST by conservonator (Pray for those suffering)
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