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To: DouglasKC
One more time. Let me ask a basic question: Do you see, or understand that there is a difference, between scriptural commandments of God and Jewish traditions and ordinances? Do you recognize the fact that Jews have built up a vast body of laws, ordinances and customs that are not necessarily scriptural in nature?

Yes, and those were not legimate when the Lord was on Earth.

He ignored them (Mk.7:7).

What we are talking about are legimate Jewish laws that have also been removed and the Christian is not required to walk by them.

You admit that the sacrifices have been removed because of the finished work on the Cross.

Well, all of the Jewish laws given by Moses are also removed.

The Christian now 'keeps the Law', not by following the Old Testament laws, but by walking in the Spirit (Rom.6, Gal.3, Col,3)

The Sabbaths were a sign to the Jew and no Christian is required to keep them, either Sat. or Sunday.

467 posted on 01/20/2007 10:51:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: fortheDeclaration; Diego1618; kerryusama04
One more time. Let me ask a basic question: Do you see, or understand that there is a difference, between scriptural commandments of God and Jewish traditions and ordinances? Do you recognize the fact that Jews have built up a vast body of laws, ordinances and customs that are not necessarily scriptural in nature?
Yes, and those were not legimate when the Lord was on Earth.
He ignored them (Mk.7:7).

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Jewish laws that are not scriptural were NEVER legitimate. They often WERE commandments of men.

You admit that the sacrifices have been removed because of the finished work on the Cross.

Sacrifice has not been "removed". It's still a completely legitimate doctrine. However, scripture undeniably SHOWS that animal sacrifice is not needed under the new covenant. It's clearly spelled out in Hebrews:

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Well, all of the Jewish laws given by Moses are also removed.

And there you go. The holy days were NOT "Jewish" laws. They ARE the holy days of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Now I will grant that there are non-scriptural traditions attached to the Jewish observance of the Lord's days, but the Jewish people do NOT recognize Jesus Christ as Lord so they don't observe them with the proper understanding.

And unlike sacrifices, there is no scripture that says that since Christ died, we don't have to observe his feast days. And you can't produce one that does.

The Christian now 'keeps the Law', not by following the Old Testament laws, but by walking in the Spirit (Rom.6, Gal.3, Col,3)

The spirit is God's holy spirit. The spirit of Christ. There is no way that God's spirit would ever lead one to violate one of God's laws or commandments. The purpose of God's spirit is to conform you to God's laws:

1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jo 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

If you find yourself violating one of God's commandments, such as the sabbath commandment, then you are NOT following God's spirit because God would not lead you into sin.

The Sabbaths were a sign to the Jew and no Christian is required to keep them, either Sat. or Sunday.

That is a philosophy of man. It appears nowhere in scripture.

469 posted on 01/20/2007 4:11:16 PM PST by DouglasKC
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