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To: Ottofire
Peace, Ottofire.

Christ promised He would "not leave us orphans" and that "the gates of hell" would not prevail against the Church. We were promised, and received, the Holy Spirit to explain to us the meaning and the tremendous implications of all these truths handed on to us by the Apostles.

So if the Christian Churches from Oslo to Carthage and from Iona to the banks of the Indus were wrong about all this for a little matter of 1500+ years, I'd have to look askance at those promises of His.

But He is faithful: come let us adore Him.

Great big blessings to you and all your loved ones!

104 posted on 12/22/2006 12:19:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Come let us adore Him., Christ the Lord.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

--Christ promised He would "not leave us orphans" and that "the gates of hell" would not prevail against the Church. We were promised, and received, the Holy Spirit to explain to us the meaning and the tremendous implications of all these truths handed on to us by the Apostles.

Not arguing that. He also says that the saved are always such and cannot lose their salvation, but the Catholic is in constant fear of committing a mortal sin and going straight to hell even if they are true believers. So this and much more tells me the Catholic Church has it wrong and I must look elsewhere for the truth.

--So if the Christian Churches from Oslo to Carthage and from Iona to the banks of the Indus were wrong about all this for a little matter of 1500+ years, I'd have to look askance at those promises of His.

Did you list the heretical Orthodox faith in your geographic tour of Catholicosity? They do not agree and use the same traditions that the RCC does. They and the RCC squirm and twist and try to say that they do not REALLY disagree, but when the rubber hits the road there is conflict over the infallible traditions and the schism remains.

And then there is the many schisms inside the RCC. I do not know how many times I hear Catholics here on FR complain about Mahoney (?) of the LA archdiocese, and how they would rather be in Mel Gibson's version, which is not accepted as orthodox, in this century at least. Not to mention, which I admit I do often, the pro-abortion Catholics, the married priests, the homosexual priests, the Marian cultists, those that bury poor St. Anthony upside-down in a pagan ritual, those that venerate pieces of toast or water-stains of Mary that give their venerators prophesies. There is not one unified RCC. Just a bunch of Catholics that stick around because they got the Keys of Peter sticker of approval.


107 posted on 12/22/2006 2:58:18 PM PST by Ottofire (O great God of highest heaven, Glorify Your Name through me)
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