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To: Uncle Chip

***John 2:6 is purify [katharizo], not baptize [baptizo], or even "rhantizo" [sprinkle]. They are all different words with different meanings and useages. ****


Jhn 3:25 Then there arose a question between [some] of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying (katharismos).
Jhn 3:26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all [men] come to him.

Why did this question about purifying become a question about baptizing here?


Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as [he did] unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying (katharizo)their hearts by faith.

***Furthermore the Greek word "bapto" is translated "dip" or "sop" with regards to bread dunked in a cup of wine --- dunked.***

So, did the pharasees dip themselves when they came from the market each time? did they also dip their tables?

Mar 7:4 And [when they come] from the market, except they wash (baptizo), they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, [as] the washing (baptizmos) of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.


27 posted on 12/19/2006 4:51:50 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Why did this question about purifying become a question about baptizing here?

Probably the same reason that you're asking that question of me?

So, did the pharasees dip themselves when they came from the market each time? did they also dip their tables? Mar 7:4 And [when they come] from the market, except they wash (baptizo), they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, [as] the washing (baptizmos) of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

They got their hands, cups, pots, vessels, and tables thoroughly wet, either covering them with water, dipping them into water, or pouring water on them until they were fully wet.

How do you clean your hands and dishes? Do you sprinkle water on them? maybe a little spray? or perhaps you dry clean them? Unless you get them thoroughly wet, they won't be clean. Take a lesson.

30 posted on 12/19/2006 5:16:50 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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