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To: Pyro7480; Frank Sheed; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; BibChr

Would you say the following regarding Mary:

"Mary the Mother of the Godhead"


543 posted on 12/15/2006 6:53:08 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

SO glad not to be chained to a sect.


546 posted on 12/15/2006 6:55:48 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: xzins; Frank Sheed; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; BibChr
No. If you read the Athanasian Creed, it is clear that there's one Godhead, and three Persons in that Godhead. It doesn't make sense to say "Mother of Godhead," and neither the Catholics nor the Orthodox have used such a term. She is the Mother of the Second Person, "our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man. God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds: and Man, of the substance of His mother, born in the world. Perfect God: perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead: inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. And although He be God and Man; yet He is not two, but one Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance; but by unity of person."
550 posted on 12/15/2006 7:02:07 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: xzins

The Title Theotokos
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Third Ecumenical Council
Theotokos (in Greek, ????????) is a Greek word that means "God-bearer" or "Birth-giver to God."
As a title for the Virgin Mary, Theotokos was recognized by the Orthodox Church at Third Ecumenical Council held at Ephesus in 431. It had already been in use for some time in the devotional and liturgical life of the Church. The theological significance of the title is to emphasize that Mary's son, Jesus, is fully God, as well as fully human, and that Jesus' two natures (divine and human) were united in a single Person of the Trinity. The competing view at that council was that Mary should be called Christotokos instead, meaning "Birth-giver to Christ." This was the view advocated by Nestorius, then Patriarch of Constantinople. The intent behind calling her Christotokos was to restrict her role to be only the mother of "Christ's humanity" and not his Divine nature.
Nestorius' view was anathematized by the Council as heresy, (see Nestorianism), since it was considered to be dividing Jesus into two distinct persons, one who was Son of Mary, and another, the divine nature, who was not. It was defined that although Jesus has two natures, human and divine, these are eternally united in one personhood. Because Mary is the mother of God the Son, she is therefore duly entitled Theotokos.
Calling Mary the Theotokos or the Mother of God (????? ????) was never meant to suggest that Mary was coeternal with God, or that she existed before Jesus Christ or God existed. The Church acknowledges the mystery in the words of this ancient hymn: "He whom the entire universe could not contain was contained within your womb, O Theotokos."
The title "Theotokos" continues to be used frequently in the hymns of the Orthodox Church.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Theotokos


570 posted on 12/15/2006 7:45:30 AM PST by kawaii
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To: xzins; Pyro7480; Frank Sheed; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; BibChr
Would you say the following regarding Mary: "Mary the Mother of the Godhead"

No.

649 posted on 12/15/2006 9:10:25 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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