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Three Reasons the Church’s Enemies Hate The Immaculate Conception
TFP ^ | 12.08.06 | Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira

Posted on 12/12/2006 10:51:32 PM PST by Coleus

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To: xzins
And if God brings about good with all of that, then who are the sheep to argue with the shepherd about which deserving sheep get slaughtered.

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What does that have to do with the Immaculate Conception?

421 posted on 12/14/2006 1:41:20 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

In other news today....

http://jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2006/12/tridentine_mass.html


422 posted on 12/14/2006 1:42:01 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: wagglebee
We did it last week on multiple threads about St. Paul's tomb being found.

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It's a worthy goal. :)

423 posted on 12/14/2006 1:42:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
There is a line of scholarship that puts the gospel of Mark as early as 50 AD.

That is also permitted by no less than the Catholic Encyclopedia which concludes:

Taking the external and internal evidence together, we may conclude that the date of the Gospel probably lies somewhere between A.D. 50 and 67.

424 posted on 12/14/2006 1:43:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Frank Sheed
There are at least a couple of threads about that issue.

It's very good news.

425 posted on 12/14/2006 1:44:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: unspun

When they call for reinforcements, it means the first round is over! It's what we Irish call, a "donnybrook."


426 posted on 12/14/2006 1:44:35 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: xzins

So now we can read the epistles and the Gospel of Mark, that's all?

The notion that St Paul meant for the traditions and scripture to end with him are ridiculous.


427 posted on 12/14/2006 1:44:38 PM PST by kawaii
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To: xzins

I agree that the dates for Mark differ. However, John's gospel, epistles and the Revelation certainly were decades after Paul's death and Acts covers Pauls death so it had to have been written later.


428 posted on 12/14/2006 1:45:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: trisham

Posted one meself yesterday. It is indeed looking promising.


429 posted on 12/14/2006 1:45:32 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: armydoc
I was simply trying to understand where you are coming from. If you think evil is synonymous with sinful, then either you think there are no natural evils (e.g. major birth defects, tsunamis that kill thousands of peoples, childhood leukemia, miscarriages, etc.) or you think that such things are sinful.

-A8

430 posted on 12/14/2006 1:45:47 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: trisham; Frank Sheed
There are at least a couple of threads about that issue.

It's very good news.

But they're not nearly as fun!

431 posted on 12/14/2006 1:46:33 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Frank Sheed
When they call for reinforcements, it means the first round is over! It's what we Irish call, a "donnybrook."

I don't know who'se reinforcing whom, but my Ulster Scot anscestors got outta' town way back in the 1700's. ;-`

PS: To all -- let's focus, in Christ, upon our Father in Heaven, as he taught us.

432 posted on 12/14/2006 1:47:22 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: kawaii; trisham

Jesus HAD to be born in Bethlehem BECAUSE God said he WOULD be born in Bethlehem.

What is the test of a false prophet?


433 posted on 12/14/2006 1:47:35 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: kawaii; wagglebee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1752704/posts?page=368#368

Ammunition...


434 posted on 12/14/2006 1:48:02 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: wagglebee

The Book of Acts does not cover Paul's death.

It ends with him awaiting trial in Rome.

There is history that says it was at his 2nd trial in Rome that he was slain. There is a line of scholarship supporting that, but it is not definitive so far as I remember.


435 posted on 12/14/2006 1:49:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: wagglebee

True, true. Hold the fort. Someone is at the door!


436 posted on 12/14/2006 1:49:32 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: wagglebee; nanetteclaret; Salvation

I am giddy with anticipation....


437 posted on 12/14/2006 1:52:10 PM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: trisham; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; Frumanchu; OrthodoxPresbyterian; nobdysfool; ...

If you read this article, you will notice that calvinists are listed as enemies.

I am a calvinist. See post #37.

Therefore, it perfectly relates to this article.

The article can't very well call me a "lover of evil" and have me not respond.


438 posted on 12/14/2006 1:52:24 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

All that means is that some girl in Bethlehem had to say yes when asked, not that Mary specifically had to.


439 posted on 12/14/2006 1:52:34 PM PST by kawaii
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To: xzins

Do you beleive in the perpetual Virginity of Mary?


440 posted on 12/14/2006 1:53:05 PM PST by kawaii
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