Open to Life: Asking Protestants to Ponder Mary

CatholicExchange.com ^ | 12-07-06 | Pete Vere

[frogjerk]

You don't NEED anyone else's help to get into heaven.

Then I guess I can forget about St. Peter, St. Paul, and all of the Evangelists because without them I wouldn't even know about Jesus.

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I also need the Holy Spirit's help to get into heaven.

[trisham]

Catholic bump.

[Marysecretary]

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No one cometh to the father but by HIM. The Holy Spirit never points to himself. Paul and others always point to Christ. Yes, their examples are important but it's only God through Jesus who saves you.

[MHGinTN]

There is something very different with Mary the Mother of Our Lord ... she had a relationship with Jesus from the time of His implantation in her womb because He was Jesus when implanted, and Jesus is of the Triune God! I'm an Episcopalian, but I truly believe the person of Mary is like no other human being who has ever lived ... she of all people had God indwelling her, drawing life support from her for His incarnation from the moment of implantation.

Some where/when we will be astonished at the magnitude of effect this unique relationship wrought in and through The Mother of Our Lord. It is not surprising that people pray to Mary for her intercession with life's vagaries on their behalf. But Salvation is by one and only Jesus; the imparting of immortality upon your spirit is something ONLY Jesus can accomplish. And if it were up to you to retain that grace from God, you or anyone else would fail to assure it when the Evil one came after you.

[Nancee]

BUMP!!!

[Nancee]

"There is something very different with Mary the Mother of Our Lord ... she had a relationship with Jesus from the time of His implantation in her womb because He was Jesus when implanted, and Jesus is of the Triune God! I'm an Episcopalian, but I truly believe the person of Mary is like no other human being who has ever lived ... she of all people had God indwelling her, drawing life support from her for His incarnation from the moment of implantation."

"Some where/when we will be astonished at the magnitude of effect this unique relationship wrought in and through The Mother of Our Lord. It is not surprising that people pray to Mary for her intercession with life's vagaries on their behalf. But Salvation is by one and only Jesus; the imparting of immortality upon your spirit is something ONLY Jesus can accomplish. And if it were up to you to retain that grace from God, you or anyone else would fail to assure it when the Evil one came after you.

I would say that you and I are kindred spirits, "MHGinTN"!

Thanks for the "ping"!!

Nancee

[MHGinTN]

I was 'reborn' in 1972. The Evil one has yet to let up in efforts to rob me of the joy of that Salvation, or to cause me to stumble and thus divert the attention of one about to be reborn, or to 'punish me' for rejecting the company of the dead in spirit. Thanks be to Jesus that His promise will not and cannot be broken, namely to never leave me or foresake me. I've made Him mighty uncomfortable with me at times, but He is the stronger, a truth for which I am eternally grateful and Satan eternally the loser. Ain't life a hoot though?

[Salvation]

** I think that the stance against birth control by the catholic church(is is still official?) is a BIG plus and evidence of wisdom.... oral 'contraception' is chemical abortion (I was an embryologist and researcher prior to my doctoral studies)and not only do the protestants allow it, they silently promote it.**

Yes, it is still true for the Catholic Church. Contaception is not accepted.

I am heartened, however, by the number of Protestants that are changing their minds and deciding NOY to contr-conception.

[Salvation]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life.

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, "if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence."

2319 Every human life, from the moment of conception until death, is sacred because the human person has been willed for its own sake in the image and likeness of the living and holy God.

2323 Because it should be treated as a person from conception, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed like every other human being.

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.

1711 Endowed with a spiritual soul, with intellect and with free will, the human person is from his very conception ordered to God and destined for eternal beatitude. He pursues his perfection in "seeking and loving what is true and good" (GS 15 § 2).

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                From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (click on the book for the link.)    

2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).

 

2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.

[Salvation]

**"God MEANT for you to be born!**

God means for EVERY conceived child to be born.

[Salvation]

**Intercessory prayer. That's it.**

Just like we ask friends to pray for us!

[Salvation]

Praying for your husband and your pastor to come back to the Church. There are many classes sponsored by churches for that purpose.

Our church does one every year entitled, "Catholics Can Come Home Again."

Who knows, you could even be in an RCIA class. You do seem to understand a lot of the Catholic concepts.

[Nancee]

I became a Christian in 1967. And, like you, the devil is relentless in keeping after me. But thanks be to the Living God; for we are saved unto the Day of Redemption. (Ephesians 1:13, 14). The devil cannot have us, and that's that!!!! He does make every effort to rob us of the joy of our salvation because he is well asware of the fact that he can never have our souls!! One of my favorite authors is C.S. Lewis, for he portrays the ruthless and relentless ways in which the fallen angel pursues us. I do so enjoy the wisdom which always comes through in his works!

Like I said, we think alike, or so it seems! And yes, "Life is a hoot."

Nancee

P.S. Did you happen to read my earlier reponse to your post regarding that 3400 sq. ft home in Tennessee?

[Salvation]

I bet you even ask people (friends and relatives, and maybe even acquaitances) to pray for you too! Imagine that!

I did today. Someone I had met for only the second time, and I asked her to pray for me as I took flyers to five schools before they closed this afternoon.

And she said she would!!

Then I wished her a Merry Christmas!

At the next school (public) I wished someone a Merry Christmas -- and they returned the greeting! Wow! The world might be changing!

And because of prayer!??!!

[Salvation]

** I'm an Episcopalian, but I truly believe the person of Mary is like no other human being who has ever lived ... she of all people had God indwelling her, drawing life support from her for His incarnation from the moment of implantation.**

Thank you and blessings for the weekend and the week before Christmas!

[Salvation]

**Some where/when we will be astonished at the magnitude of effect this unique relationship wrought in and through The Mother of Our Lord.**

I believe it is starting to happen. That's why there is so much antagonism on the "Mary" threads.

At least this one is about pro-life!

[Nancee]

:-)

[cpforlife.org]

"The underlying truth is that each person is meant to exist.
Each person is God's own idea".
--Pope Benedict XVI

[frogjerk]

but it's only God through Jesus who saves you.

Absolutely, and the Church teaches this.