[HarleyD]

We do not have a New Testament scripture for God expressing a desire to kill (Old Testament is less clear on that), nor is natural death ever described as God killing.

BTW-I would disagree on that. I think there is much to say in the New Testament on God's wrath. Whether you wish to take Revelation as literal or an allegory, God's judgment will be severe. And, don't forget Ananias and Sapphira and what happened to them simply for lying to the Holy Spirit.

[Kolokotronis]

"BTW-I would disagree on that. I think there is much to say in the New Testament on God's wrath. Whether you wish to take Revelation as literal or an allegory, God's judgment will be severe. And, don't forget Ananias and Sapphira and what happened to them simply for lying to the Holy Spirit."

The Final Judgment will indeed be severe, but it appears we were speaking of God killing people here on earth now and in the past. I personally think that in some cases that might well be true, but for reasons rather different than you might ascribe to. I am curious, and I may have asked this before, what do you believe the effect of sin is in and, for that matter, on the world?

[annalex]

God's wrath

That wrath always follows sin, and sin is something men do.

[Forest Keeper]

I think there is much to say in the New Testament on God's wrath. Whether you wish to take Revelation as literal or an allegory, God's judgment will be severe. And, don't forget Ananias and Sapphira and what happened to them simply for lying to the Holy Spirit.

Absolutely. There is also Herod.

Acts 12:23 : 23 Immediately, because Herod did not give praise to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.

Pretty cool that he was eaten by worms FIRST. This is old school. :)