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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; The_Reader_David; Mad Dawg
Ah, then we see the concept of "God's children" very differently

Yes we do.In the above, I would say that the one child God feeds IS His child, but the other 4 are not His children.

Wow, and yet He created them! That's like saying God has 'illegitimate' children that He wants nothing to do with! (I know that's what the Reformed believe)

Who gave them life?

In the above, I would say that the one child God feeds IS His child, but the other 4 are not His children

Why not? No one but God created them. No one but God gave them life. And now he doesn't want them? What message does that send?

Out of the five, God loves the one child who is truly His

And HE decided whop will be His and who won't, correct?

The other children are not His responsibility

He created them!

God accepts the "responsibility" of Fatherhood for those who actually are His children, not everybody

All mankind are His creation. Man was made in His image and Likeness.

9,901 posted on 02/09/2007 8:20:02 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; The_Reader_David; Mad Dawg
FK: "In the above, I would say that the one child God feeds IS His child, but the other 4 are not His children."

Wow, and yet He created them! That's like saying God has 'illegitimate' children that He wants nothing to do with! (I know that's what the Reformed believe)

Sure, He created all of them, but becoming a child of God is a right only granted by God to some, such as in the verses I posted to Kolo. It has nothing to do with the reprobate being "illegitimate" or His wanting nothing to do with them. God uses his creations to serve His purposes, both the elect and the reprobate. He also loves His children, the elect.

No one but God created them. No one but God gave them life. And now he doesn't want them? What message does that send?

When is "now"? When God DID create them, did He know anything about their ultimate end? Yet, He created anyway. Why did He do that? Was He hoping that He would be wrong? Of course not. Before He lifted a creative finger, God knew that He was going to create billions of future inhabitants of Hell. He even knew each of them by name. That's just an inescapable fact. What is so unsettling about this?

And HE decided who will be His and who won't, correct?

Yes, not only that, He did so without regard to any decisions by any men. God's decisions were solely within His will and sovereignty.

FK: "The other children are not His responsibility."

He created them!

Yes, He created them. What are God's responsibilities to all men for the fact of creating them, and on what do you base your answer?

All mankind are His creation. Man was made in His image and Likeness.

All true. It's also true that most of those images and likenesses will wind up in Hell. How does this translate to what God "owes" us?

10,449 posted on 02/14/2007 11:41:29 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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