You are trying to single out individuals.
This has NOTHING to do with what the actual teachings of Faith and Morals of the Church.NOTHING!
Its like me saying that because someone in the Lutheran church commits murder -that all Lutherans and their teachings are bad.This would be a foolish and hateful thing to say
I hear this type of stuff from athiest who try and paint all Christians as bad to try and prove there is no God!
You make NO sense, Dear Brother!
The Orthodox already have a perfect church with Christ at its head; 20,000+ protestant schismatic sects many of which have established Christian 'firsts' by allowing abortion, promoting gay clergy, and blessing gay marriage, have neither a perfect church, nor is Christ at their head.
9,095 posted on 02/06/2007 12:38:06 PM MST by kawaii To 9092
Romans even with their faults state clearly that they should NOT be ordained.
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It is PROTESTANTS doing evil IN GOD'S NAME.
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9,360 posted on 02/07/2007 8:11:36 AM MST by kawaii To 9341
[QX: CLEARLY ROMAN EVILS are more equal to righteousness than others'! GTTM]
none of these have ever made abominable sins official church doctrine; protestantism has because protestantism is inspired by Satan and exist only to rebel against God's word.
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9,370 posted on 02/07/2007 8:52:16 AM MST by kawaii To 9365
[QX: SOOOOOO, RC's et al in their lofty hierarchies and magestericals . . . can bloodily obliterate thousands of saints in horribly torturous ways; have orgies; mistresses and illegitimate offpring aplenty; run generally roughshod and dismissively over a long list of Biblical standards and criteria . . . but because they didn't ORDER OR SANCTION FORMALLY ALL RC's et al to do the same, their INDIVIDUAL BUT ORGANIZATIONALLY IMPACTFUL SINS are more equal--more toward righteousness than INDIVIDUAL PROTESTY LEADERS' SINS ARE???? And I'm supposed to think that's logical AND MORE RIGHTEOUS AND CONGRUENT??? GTTM! with tears.]
Certainly Satan could as likely be performing parlor tricks to help prop up his anti-Christian churches.
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9,388 posted on 02/07/2007 9:54:06 AM MST by kawaii To 9379
[QX: EVEN BONA FIDE HEALINGS via Christians who confess the core beliefs of the faith AND THAT CHRIST CAME IN THE FLESH--THE BIBLICAL STANDARD OF A SOURCE'S CONNECTION TO HOLY SPIRIT--because they aren't Roman or Orthodox, they are automatically satanic. Lovely. UnBiblical. Hogwash. Double standard. Papal orgies and the Inquisition are either not satanic or not satanic enough to be a real terrible thing COMPARED TO REDEMPTIVE HEALINGS LEADING TO SALVATION IN CHRIST THROUGH--HORRORS--PROTESTIES! Something's wrong with this picture.]
Oh Holy Scripture does indeed provide a measure for this; folks who reject the teachings of St Paul for instance are called false prophets by Paul himself.
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Therefore folks who do this yet proclaim to be prophets cannot be invoking the Holy Spirit.
[QX: AHHHHHHH . . . So, folks who take a contextual perspective and understanding on a minor ambiguous issue are satanic false prophets. Folks who at the top of the Roman heirarchy engage in and support orgies; correuption; unnecessary wars; bloody inquisitions; torture . . . are merely misguided individuals--STILL WITH KEYS TO THE KINGDOM; STILL ADMINISTRATOR OVER AND DISPENSER OF HOLY SPIRIT--STILL INFALLIBLE AND STILL with VERY INsignificant impact on THE CHURCH or THE TRUTH.
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Right. And the tooth fairy gave birth to the 7 dwarfs in the lap of Santa Claus on a full moon on the Las Vegas Strip presided over by a virgin burro and a chorus of departed doves that the local street people were accustomed to praying to in their drunken stupor. And Hollyweed and the NY Times blessed it and said it was good. IOW, SAY WHUT??? Where's that barf bag]
If they're standing there with uncovered women preaching and trying to claim to be invoking the Holy Spirit they're lying.
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9,393 posted on 02/07/2007 10:09:59 AM MST by kawaii To 9392
[QX: To paraphrase . . . if the orgy loving popes; the corrupt popes, Cardinals, bishops; the war-mongering popes; the blood loving hierarchy and magesterical are parading their power mongering excesses and evil sins as good enough business as usual . . . and still presuming to tell the serfs what Biblical truth is; and still presuming to have the keys to the Kingdom; and still presuming to assume that they still have God's anointing to lead anything or anyone above sewer cleaners anywhere but hell . . . they're seriously deluded AND lying.]
OK. Here is one supersition you guys share with Islam: Sola Scriptura.
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9,577 posted on 02/07/2007 2:47:56 PM MST by annalex To 9575
[QX: Uhhhhh . . . . were all the papal excesses, hierarchical corruptions, orgies, inquisitions, bloody unnecessary wars . . .
--superstitions;
--convenient new dogma for the moment;
--new revelations;
--new interpretations;
--new messages from the Mary-carrier pigeon/telegram/email-to-Jesus connection;
--new concensus declarations from the magesterical;
--WHAT???]
The similarity with Islam is in the beleive that all things necessary for salvation are contained in a certain sacred text. The said text is, of course different for the Protestants and for the Muslim, but the faulty principle is shared.
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9,590 posted on 02/07/2007 3:28:05 PM MST by annalex To 9579
QX: The similarity with Islam is in the beleive that all things necessary for salvation are contained in a certain sacred text.
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AS OPPOSED TO: Contained in a certain sacred text clarified, inferred, extrapolated and assumed upon by the magesterical for the safety of the serfs; PLUS
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the consensus pontifications of the hierarchy and magesterical--some centuries when they bothered to take time out from their orgies;
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the popes--some centuries when they bothered to take time out from their bloody war mongering;
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The Committees for the preservation of the faithful when they ran around the countryside torturing and literally shredding and burning alive true saints;
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(the list could go on about how pure and righteous all the components necessary for salvation have ALWAYS BEEN--UNCHANGEABLE AND UNCHANGED SINCE THE ASCENSION--within the TRUEST TRULY TRUE AWESOMELY RIGHTEOUSLY TRULY TRUE RC CHURCH) Where's that barf bag again.
The teachings on faith and Morals and many other things in the Catholic Church remain the same for over 2000 years. NO CONFUSION!
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Sorry Dear Brother ,this is just the TRUTH
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9,639 posted on 02/07/2007 5:30:19 PM MST by stfassisi To 9638
QX: Given that we are all living epistles . . . and that our lives do teach whether we think so or want so, or not . . .
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The RC edific's teachings on MORALS have most definitely CHANGED WHOLESALE during many centuries when it was a widely demonstrated horrible characture of hell much more than anything resembling the TRUTH, MAJESTY AND MORALITY OF THE GOSPEL.
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Sorry Dear Brother ,this is just the TRUTH
Enough, I have a loom contraption to tinker with.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them .
Forgot to ping you to my pontification on an important double standard bunch of stuff.
Outstanding work, Quix. As I was passing through all these comments, and saw them piling on top of each other, I began to wish I had cataloged them. Thank you for doing so. There IS a tremendous double standard at work here.