[wmfights]

further while athansius opinion is certainly important and relevant I don't see any reason for taking it in a vaccum;...

I think if you wanted to read my posts carefully I never stated his decision was made in a vacuum or accepted in a vacuum.

[kawaii]

i just don't see a value historical or otherwise to looking at what a single bishop stated; i think we should get a consensus of what a lot of Christian bishops thought at the time.