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To: annalex

Annalex, when I have said it is not of works, using Scripture, you have tried to make a distinction between "salvific" works and the works of the law. That is what I was referring to in this post, but I think you know that. 1 Corinthians 3 doesn't make a distinction of works either. It makes a distinction in MOTIVE for the works. The works done are still works. It is the motive that determines whether they are burnt or not. And note, it is not a salvific judgment for 3:15 clearly states:
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. Wha la! You just stumbled on the judgment of the dead in Christ. We will not be judged for our sins. Our sins were already dealt with on the cross. We WILL be judged by our works - but not salvifically. It is a matter of reward or lack thereof. The Bible indicates that there will be some who will be in heaven who didn't do anything with a pure motive for their Lord. Kinda like the Pharisees who prayed in public in order to be seen of men. They will not be rewarded in heaven no matter how pious they appeared on earth. They will get to heaven. They are saved. They have just suffered great loss in terms of reward.

Salvation is not of works, but it works. Again, I contend that you confuse the cause with the effect of salvation. Your love does not get you saved. Yet, if you are saved, you will love.

I have already checked the church is the pillar of truth verse out with a couple of Greek Scholars. Again, nothing forbids God from being the pillar.

And finally, the church does not determine the Canon. The Canon existed before the church took a vote. GOD determines the Canon.


9,292 posted on 02/06/2007 5:26:24 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
1 Corinthians 3 doesn't make a distinction of works either. It makes a distinction in MOTIVE for the works.

That is right; and so does Christ and St. Paul. This is exactly the distinction the Church sees: works that are good in themselves, when done for a social recognition ("boast") are not salvific, and when done in charity are salvific.

It is also true that 1 Corinthinas 3 described the judgement of the saved only, -- we call that thing Purgatory. Matthew 25 described the judgement that separates the saved form the lost, and it is works based.

9,297 posted on 02/06/2007 5:47:18 PM PST by annalex
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