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To: Blogger

I guess it's one of those INSIDE'S BIGGER THAN THE OUTSIDE things . . .

He stops God's whole scheme and schedule of things to catch up on hearing all the individual prayers one at a time.

LOL!

NOT!


9,017 posted on 02/05/2007 6:56:54 PM PST by Quix (WHEN IT COMES TO UFO'S TRY ABOVETOPSECRET.COM TO LEARN A LITTLE 1ST THEN POST)
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To: Quix; Blogger
You guys want to talk or just

yell

?
If it's just yell, call me when you're ready to talk again.

There are three problems I see here.

(1) What we see as God's choice, you see as Something we think God HAS to do. If God were to have made Mary some kind of mediatrix, co-mediatrix, deputy under-secretary for mediation, it wouldn't be out of necessity but out of Grace. [And a lemma here seems to be that we think that the "we shall be like Him" of Saint John is more spectacular and mind-boggling in its realization that you seem to think it will be.]

(2)We have a VERY different view of time and Eternity. While we might say God "foresees" something, All times, we think and say when were speaking carefully, are "now" to God. He doesn't look ahead or backwards, we think. [And here the lemma is that the Saints in Heaven will be or are already (It doesn't matter that much what tense you use - as you will see if you think about it) at least to some degree free of the bounds of time.]

(3) We see a continuum, while your vision seems to be more binary. So, you seem to think that if Mary and Anthony can intercede for all the different things that get asked of them, they must be omnipotent. But we envision gradations and degrees. They're not ALL powerful, just MORE powerful, a LOT more powerful.

But even then, it's ALL, every little piece of it, from God. Who knows why he would choose an Italian -- a Paduan -- for crying out loud. But then again, why did He choose Sinai? It's the pagans who would think it would have something to do with Sinai. We think it is grace -- a kind of jeu d'Esprit.

And so, I really must harp on this a little, Of COURSE, not only Jesus but the Holy Trinity is serving us at all times.

The great prayer of Consecration in the Apostolic Constitutions presents everything as done for US! God made light so we could see! Dry land so we would have somewhere to stand! Vegetables and animals so we would have something to eat, and to help us and to delight us!

Jesus says He who would be great among you must be as one who serves. Why do you suppose that is? Because since Creation God has devoted Himself to our service, our salvation,

yes we don't deserve it. Of course we don't. But He is SO eager to shed grace, raining on the just and on the unjust, that he makes it possible for us to hear one another, to speak to one another.

You think it's an outrageous miracle that, as we think, Mary can hear the prayers of the faithful and can intercede. I think you have grown blase' about miracles. I htink it's a miracle that I can strike buttons with my fingers, and electrical signals go through a maze of swithces and finally end up somewhere as signs which, clumped together, give you some notion of what is going on in my alleged mind! That's a frequent occurrence, but no less preposterous than the Mother of My Lord hearing my requests. Frequency ought not to rob you of appreciation of its strange and merciful mystery.

You all say we somehow derogate God. I suggest that maybe you have forgotten how every breath you take, much less every thought you utter, is a wonderful gift, in a universe and lifetime of gifts. You are the bored sophisticates saying,"Yes, yes" He gives us language and itsw effects, so what?" But we are saying, like children,"HE can do ANYTHING! He can make Speech and hearing, HE can glorify the Mother of our Lord! There is no amazing and wonderful thing He cannot do -- and all as a profligate and extravagant display of His Love and generosity! So let us rejoice, with parades and processions, with parties and worship and festivals in the streets."

9,018 posted on 02/05/2007 7:40:10 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("global warming -- it's just the tip of the iceberg!")
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