Hi Timer,
WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY ?????. PLEASE STOP YELLING AT ME.
Now, that's out of my system so let's continue.
Of course we talk two different languages. You have a scientific mind and I'm an artist. But the point about you meaning walking on an ocean of air instead of the "bottom of the ocean" is tripe, as you've shown by going on to tell me I descended from fish (I am a Pisces however, does that count?). Do you really connect Jesus telling us to fish for men as meaning we were fish? Do you really think that because we have blood flowing, or that it taste salty, or we walk in crowds in a flow that we were fish. Gosh, if you believe that you might even fall for the really ridiculous idea that apes are our ancestors. Nah, not even you could think that.
You are absolutely correct about the crucifixion. It should be Passover, not easter Sunday. If you have a problem about how it has been passed down you should take it up with the church, with the MEN that decided to change it and not follow what the BIBLE said.
I also agree that the birth of Christ was not on December 25th. Not only was it Jupiter's birthday but almost all the other pagan god's as well. The really strange and wonderful thing though is that was the date of the conception of Christ. His birth was not in January but was September 29, the date of The Feast of Tabernacles. The dates used to compute Mary's pregnancy are found in Luke. Again, don't say the Bible is misleading you, men did that.
Born on the Feast of Tabernacles, crucified on Passover. Do you think that was by chance?
As far as Saul/Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus. I didn't know there was a discrepency, please quote verses. I do know there are differences in the telling of Christ's story. Different people see things in a different way, example: us. In the telling of a story we would write it in a different way, from our perspective.
I agree with you on the numbers. They sound way out of whack to me too. That sounds like a job for a Hebrew scholar to work on and explain.
I cannot agree with you about the rest though. The text has remained the same, it has not changed. Changes came about when man translated. Even the King James Bible, that I love, had a disclaimer that it tried to faithfully copy but mistakes were made. The Hebrew manuscripts cannot change because they are locked in with the Massorah. For us today the best Bible to use is the King James because you can use the concordance with it to see the meaning of the Hebrew & Greek words. The new and improved Bibles come out every few years because MEN want them to, not God.
Timer, I'm not hiding under any blanket. I am seeking truth and as we both have pointed out, the mistakes come from man. Nor am I thunderously POUNDING on a Bible but I do not see it as you do. It is not full of mistakes with a glimmer of truth here and there.
The fairy tales you see aren't in the Bible but some churches teach them. It's up to us to understand the truth without trashing God's Word. He "foretold us all things".
You have a beautiful mind Timer but you make it difficult for people to learn from it.
Thank you for your reply.
Jesus talked about stones, yes? Men will stumble over this stone that was rejected and be broken. The "rejected stone" has no real meaning to YOU, but every jew alive THEN knew he was referring to the non-square stone that was to be the keystone of the arch in solomon's temple. This is a whole mini-story in masonry.
This non-square stone was thus thrown into the scrap pile, and later retrieved to become the most important stone of all. He was of course referring to his own crucifiction and being retrieved from the "scrap pile" of the grave(again covered over with a STONE).
And whosoever this STONE falls upon will be crushed. How many have FOUGHT with Jesus, and been CRUSHED? Kinda hard to defeat the TRUTH, yes?
A house built upon sand is usually washed away by the storm, but a house built upon a ROCK weathers all he storms.
Upon this ROCK(Peter)will I build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
He who offends one of these little ones who believes in me, it would be better for him that a millSTONE be cast around his neck and he be thrown into the sea.
See this great temple? Not one STONE shall stand upon another after that TIME. He was of course referring to the Roman conquest, the diaspora, and the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Now all the jews have left is the western(wailing)wall.
And yet did you know that the cornerSTONE of the third temple was recently laid on the temple mount? And that there is an earthquake fault running directly under it? The righteous jews are praying MIGHTY HARD for that earthquake to occur(God bulldozing the islamic temple thereon).
As you may know, the plates meet to the east of jerusalem, thus the dead sea, far below sealevel, as they grind past each other. There is a "zipper" effect, earthquakes move along the fault line much like a zipper unzips.
For several years now, earthquakes have been moving west north westward thru turkey at a certain rate. The next ZIP is under the bay just south of Istanbul. That means that soon enough that GREAT CITY will be completely leveled.
This coming quake may also be under the temple mount, thus the destruction of the AlAqsa mosque, thus the third temple will be built quickly by the jews. I saw their plan in LA once at a jewish gathering, they've had it explicitly designed for YEARS.
Ah yes, the jews...Stiff necked to be sure. Once had the HONOR to sit next to Haddasa Ben Ito, acting justice of the Israeli Supreme Court. She was the only survivor of her large, extended polish family(they got her out before hitler invaded). Kindest, most loving eyes I've ever seen.
She was giving a lecture(typical spiel, fast english like moshe dayan)at a Denver University. In the middle of it here comes these 3 LEBANESE stomping in with fatigues on, yelling curses at her. UH OH, I thought, out comes the AK47s(get ready to DUCK, they're only 15 feet away).
But no AK 47s, just yelling back and forth between them and the jewish half on the other side of the auditorium, as she finished her speech. She forgot her pinned-up map on the stage so I retrieved it and gave it to her as she left. The rabbi said to her, as she left, just like old times haddasa, yes? Anyway, a true daughter of Israel, one of the most beautiful people I've ever met in my whole life.
Well, enough STONES for today....