[kosta50]

Thank you, Jo. Good to see you back, even if rarely. Needless to say, I agree with you albeit partially. It is extremely difficult to make a definitive statement that the culture changed but the Church did not. In trying to explain the Church to the new "pagan" humanist, it is difficult to know if the explanation was born out of a desire to communicate or out of the mindset of the times.

I don't even understand what prompted Vatican II, let alone what promoted the Roman Catholic Church to turn everything upside down and "Protestantize" itself almost to the point of being unrecognizable to the Orthodox.

Thank God, that period is now behind us. As Kolo once observed, this Pope has our ears. He speaks and thinks patristic.

[jo kus]

It is extremely difficult to make a definitive statement that the culture changed but the Church did not.

I think it would be impossible to make such a statement. The Church is made up of people from the culture itself. The Church is supposed to reach out to the world, not separate itself from it.

I don't even understand what prompted Vatican II, let alone what promoted the Roman Catholic Church to turn everything upside down and "Protestantize" itself almost to the point of being unrecognizable to the Orthodox.

Vatican 2 itself was really an outstanding effort, no doubt, a working of the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, execution of its constitutions and declarations were another story. However, I have ultimate faith that this is all in God's hands for His own reasons.

Regards