Eventually you'll understand the noah flood story as a myth based on a KATRINA type hurricane that he survived on his raft out in the gulf of arabia. The problem was that the only way these illierate pakistanis had of retaining historical events was thru family lore. All primitive peoples have certain persons designated as "memory people" who memorize their own tribe's history.
You can demonstrate how entropy(chaos)creeps into order(signal)very easily. Sit 10 people in a circle, facing outwards. Each person whispers a nonsensical sentence in the person to the right's ear, like : Jack's rabbit jumped over the quarter moon. Thus as each of the 10 sentences travel around the circle, it is filtered thru 9 other ears/minds/memories. When it gets back to you, in your left ear, it will be practically unrecognizable.
Go ahead, DO IT. Then you'll understand how the noah sea survival story gets jinned up, made into a MYTH over the 7 succeeding generations of ILLITERATE people. Still another 7 generations to young ABRAM when it's finally WRITTEN DOWN...and one can see how a true story, fit for the Readers Digest Book Section, is warped into a MYTH.
So, like linus with his security blanket you hide away from the TRUTH, but I sir am a righteous man. I seek TRUTH wherever it may be found. As a five year old you were taught the noah myth in sunday school, you're no longer 5 years old, yes?
And yet the world is FULL of suckers(PT Barnum)ripe for the anti-christ to lead astray. The devil has always been the trickster, the flim-flam man, the con artist and if you don't have the sense to see the noah myth for what it is, he'll snare you too.
Once again he'll use the trick hitler used on the german people : You are BEAUTIFUL, FANTASTIC, SUPERIOR in every way. A CON ALWAYS SOUNDS WONDERFUL. It wouldn't work if it didn't SOUND WONDERFUL. That's how the SUCKER is always hooked.
Thus you have noah = pakistani propaganda = jewish myth; and hitler = aryan superiority = nazi killing machine. As the sign on the post office wall says : If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. How many pieces of junk mail do you get that tell you that you won the BIG PRIZE?
Jesus said that you are worth more than the whole earth. What he's referring to is your QUALITATIVE SPIRIT, not your puny little body walking around on an ocean bottom. When you die it's your SPIRIT body that goes on. Me? I'm a righteous guy, finding out the TRUTH of things is what I'm about, not going with the buffalo herd over the cliff....
And speaking of cliffs and floods : the flood road in next ping.
Katrina's flood waters lapped against your home, yes? About 6 years ago this architect began pondering on possible flood solutions following the Des Moines IA river flood.
No, not sand bags or levees, something automatic that stops the floodwater w/o much human labor. First idea : miles of refrigeration lines that freezes the rising water into ICE. Very costly and ice FLOATS = the water comes right under it.
Next : bouyant boxes in deep-set chambers that float up as the water rises. Top of boxes is a roadway. Not too practical either. Too much excavation required.
Third idea : 20'x20' hinged, buoyant road panels, piano-hinged atop landward concrete walls and river/sea side dead man anchors to hold them vertical as they FLOAT up into a vertical seawall. Then when the waters abate they float back down into a roadway again.
All natural forces, buoyancy and gravity operate the system, no human effort required. No view-blocking levees or sand bags, NATURE does all the flood protection for your property.
Sketched out the idea, sent it to Des Moines, nat'l FEMA : NOTHING. Then comes KATRINA : maybe NOW they'll listen. Think of the buoyant bridge sections piled top the freeway stanchions in Lake Ponchatrain....
So built a table top model in a lazy B pattern w/5"x5" plywood pieces, styrofoam blocks under them, red thread for dead man anchors, flex webbing between...a year ago december, tested in local swimming pool. It WORKS of course(keeping the interior dry)as the panels swing up to vertical. Took pics.
Sent off pic copies, description, sketch package to 22 coastal states governors for christmas. Half ***ed reply from OR and thank you letter from Gov Riley of AR. He then sent it to his state FEMA guy, where it DIED as I knew it would. He wished me luck in doing it for them for FREE. eeyeah : millions/mile roadway out of my own pocket, eeyeah....
So, on the one hand is this flood road concept that I KNOW works(the model is getting covered with dust/pine needles out in my yard)and burro-mentality governors on the other hand. And yours is Blanco...
You've heard the story of the mexican priest and his burro haven't you? He gets word that one of his flock is dying, on his death bed = extreme unction. He grabs his bible and beads, runs out of his church and jumps on his burro : YAVA BURRO, ARRIBA!
Burro just stands there, unmoving. He jumps off, slaps burro on the rump, prays to its face : burro just stands there, unmoving. Jumps on, SINKS spur, VAYA BURRO, ARRIBA. Nothing.
Jumps off again, grabs a big tree limb lying there and WHACKS burro on the nose as hard as he can.
Burro jumps up and trots off. Father Pepe jumps on and away they go. Little Pablito has taken this all in and yells to him as they trot off : Father Pepe, you are such a kind man, why you hit burro so hard?
I know my son, I know. I slapped burro, I prayed to burro, I spurred burro, then I realized that I first had to get the JACKASS' ATTENTION!
Sadly Katrina didn't get the JACKASS' ATTENTION, just throwing MONEY at it willy-nilly doesn't solve the problem, building a FLOOD ROAD would = modify existing coastal roads.
Good morning Timer,
Your assumption of "eventually you'll understand the noah flood story as a myth based on a KATRINA type hurricane" is incorrect. I will not. And please stop referring to Noah and his family as "illiterate pakistanis" that passed their tribes history down through lore. God's Word has been carried through the generations and it has not changed. It
is the only constant you can base your soul on in this world. Do I picture the ark as paintings from Sunday School - no. Do I picture the ark, as you do, as some raft covered with goat skin - no.
Your analogy of children whispering a phrase in each others ears and it becoming unrecogizable is true and when I was a child I did that. For that reason I agreed with you in my last reply, however you may not equate that with God's Word.
Also you believe the story of Noah is a "security blanket" and allows me to hide from the truth - How?
Your next paragrph of "the devil has always been a trickster....he'll snare you too", is partly true. I pray he will not snare me or others. But yes, he warps and changes the Word to fit his plan. At times he even says it is a myth and shouldn't be listened to. Things are hidden in the Word and it is up to us to search for it. We may find that truth on different levels but it should never contradict each other's idea of the truth. It has to fit together, to become one.
Your statement of:
"Once again he'll use the trick hitler used on the german people : You are BEAUTIFUL, FANTASTIC, SUPERIOR in every way. A CON ALWAYS SOUNDS WONDERFUL. It wouldn't work if it didn't SOUND WONDERFUL. That's how the SUCKER is always hooked."
That is not the trick he will use. If he could trick us so easily, if we were so vain, if we had not read God's Word with understanding and knew that He loved all His children, we would not be true Christians. He will deceive many of those that love Christ but not with that ploy.
Your next paragraph:
"Jesus said that you are worth more than the whole earth. What he's referring to is your QUALITATIVE SPIRIT, not your puny little body walking around on an ocean bottom. When you die it's your SPIRIT body that goes on. Me? I'm a righteous guy, finding out the TRUTH of things is what I'm about, not going with the buffalo herd over the cliff...."
Of course Jesus was talking about our soul, all of it is about our soul. (by the way - my puny little body never walked around on the ocean bottom). I'm glad that you are a "righteous guy" but be very careful. If you continue to step on His Word and disregard it so blatantly by believing yourself to be so much wiser than it is you may indeed walk over a very deep cliff. Remember, "And the Word was God".
So Timer, I don't wish to be conned, be a sucker, look for the Big Prize in the mail, and certainly have no ambition to be a nazi, or any of the other slurs you threw my way but I do search. That is the reason I ask for your opinion and others. I do value those opinions but I must have them witnessed from His Word.
Thank you for this reply and I look forward to your next in which you speak of "cliffs and floods: the flood road".