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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Christ paid the penalty for those sins. Christ took away the penalty. Past tense. It is over. We have been redeemed.

Again, I agree that Christ forgives our sins, even the sins after we accept the Gospel. But still, it is the relationship with God, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that is impacted after we accept Jesus as our Saviour. We are human, not spirit only. We are here in the already but not yet. Otherwise why bother living once we realize the Gospel? Why not fall on a knife to get there sooner? Would that sin stop us - if we know that Christ had already died for that sin and all others? Why does Jesus teach us to pray the following if our present and future sin doesn't affect our relationship with God?: Lk 11:4 "And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil." Is he toying with us or giving us empty words to pray to God the Father?

Will you answer my question on Mt 7:21 - "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Does the will of God not matter or is that assumed which means it is the will of God that I kill people after I accept the Gospel understand only Christ saves me?
8,636 posted on 02/02/2007 1:35:40 PM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg
Will you answer my question on Mt 7:21 - "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Does the will of God not matter or is that assumed which means it is the will of God that I kill people after I accept the Gospel understand only Christ saves me?

I thought I answered your question. 2 Philippians 2:13 explains that if one is led by the Holy Spirit, they are on the right course because both the willing and the doing of the elect is determined by God. If a man is led by some other force or by his own will, he is lost.

And further, if a man is truly led by the Holy Spirit, that man most likely will not be grieving the Holy Spirit with heavy sin, again, because the spirit of God now resides in him. As a man is sanctified by the Holy Spirit, he desires to sin less and less.

None of us knows the names of the elect, but a man can be assured his name is among them because the Bible identifies those who possess Trinitarian faith in Jesus Christ as His children.

Edifices like the church in Rome seek to obscure the clear distinction that God gives to those who are (and always have been) His.

"But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." -- Titus 3:4-7


8,647 posted on 02/02/2007 2:44:32 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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