I don't despair of much, but I do despair of being able to have a thoughtful conversation about the nature of the Church here. I will read what you all write, but I'm not going to participate.
And, hosepipe, I agree that a lot of people are more comfortable with religious organizations, assemblies, denominations or "clubs" as you sometimes call them.
It is a good thing they have that, so I ask that you join with me in prayer for all of their religious leaders and for all of them - that God will bless them one and all - and guide them according to His own will.