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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Gamecock; The_Reader_David; xzins; Quix; Blogger; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
FK: "As to "his gospel", Paul says in verse 11 that the gospel he preached is not of man."

[Kosta quoting:] "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." (Rom 2:16) [see also Rom. 16:25] Not only does he speak of his gospel, but his statements sound very Gnostic here.

Well, does it seem more reasonable to reconcile these verses by concluding that Paul made up his own gospel, apart from Christ, or that Paul is saying that his Gospel is identical to Christ's Gospel? If we choose the former, Paul would also be denying his own humanity. It seems pretty clear to me that Paul is saying that the Gospel he is preaching, "his Gospel", is the same Gospel that was given to him personally by Christ. Another way to look at it would be that if Paul did go out and preach his own made-up gospel, then it would mean that God made a colossal mistake in choosing Paul. :)

8,414 posted on 02/01/2007 11:24:28 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Gamecock; The_Reader_David; xzins; Quix; HarleyD
Well, does it seem more reasonable to reconcile these verses by concluding that Paul made up his own gospel, apart from Christ, or that Paul is saying that his Gospel is identical to Christ's Gospel?

Yes, he is implying that, but his gospel is not what Christ taught the Apostles (sans +Paul and +Luke). What +Paul is preaching was not Judaism and not what Christ taught.

It seems pretty clear to me that Paul is saying that the Gospel he is preaching, "his Gospel", is the same Gospel that was given to him personally by Christ

But it's not the Gospel Christ spoke to the Apostles in Person. Nor does Christ ever hind that there will be some +Paul.

Another way to look at it would be that if Paul did go out and preach his own made-up gospel, then it would mean that God made a colossal mistake in choosing Paul

Obviously not, since the Church survived. But the Church does not teach everything +Paul taught.

8,535 posted on 02/01/2007 9:33:40 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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